Well first off, you're going to need some serious cash for a nice suspension system if you don't want it half assed. I think the Progress Technologies set comes with a complete package including coilovers and struts. The Progress kit sells for around a grand. Or you can always just get some coilovers like Ground Controls and some Tokico gas shocks that will give you a pretty nice ride. Also, you will need a camber kit that will keep your car from bottoming out. Camber kits go for around 300 for both front and rear. Those are pretty much the basics.
Dropping the car?
I am fairly new to this. What is going to be the best way to drop the car. What coilovers are the best and which ones not to get, same with shocks. I dont want anything that is going to make the car bounce around, scrape going in parking lots, or be a sh*tty ride like all the guys in my town with APC stickers all over their car.
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What kind of car do you have? Regardless, your chance of bottoming out is determined by how low you make the car and the rate of the spring. The lower you go, the stiffer the spring needs to be to keep you from going all the way onto the ground or bottoming out the shock (destructive!)
As stated, Ground Control adjustable-heighth coilover sleeves are the best of their kind, they are make using Eibach springs and run about $300 or so. Or you can spring big bucks for threaded-body shocks with matching rate springs for $1K+.
PS--Camber correction kits will NOT prevent you from bottoming out! As their name suggests they are for fixing the issue of too much negative camber when you lower the car *substantially*
There is some built-in adjustment in the factory system the can compensate for a moderate amount of lowering, but a camber kit is never a bad idea. It saves your tires from premature wear. $300 is pretty steep, depends on what year/model you drive.
If you are on a budget, there are numerous good spring makers with fixed-height drop springs for well under $200 for a set.
As stated, Ground Control adjustable-heighth coilover sleeves are the best of their kind, they are make using Eibach springs and run about $300 or so. Or you can spring big bucks for threaded-body shocks with matching rate springs for $1K+.
PS--Camber correction kits will NOT prevent you from bottoming out! As their name suggests they are for fixing the issue of too much negative camber when you lower the car *substantially*
There is some built-in adjustment in the factory system the can compensate for a moderate amount of lowering, but a camber kit is never a bad idea. It saves your tires from premature wear. $300 is pretty steep, depends on what year/model you drive.
If you are on a budget, there are numerous good spring makers with fixed-height drop springs for well under $200 for a set.
I have a 97 4 dr LX. And i am willing to spend about $600. So what do i have to work with giving better performance but not sacrificing too much comfort on the ride.
Just get some Ground Controls or Skunk2 coilovers and a nice set of gas shocks. That should land somewhere in your ballpark. Just don't go overboard with the lowness=coolness thing. I would recommend about 1.5-2" of a drop, I think that would be pretty nice.
ok great! the shocks any recommendations. i dont think the expensive ones at pep boys will do will they?
well for shocks i would recommend some adjustable gas shocks. for good quality with good pricing i would either go with tokico iluminas (whites not blues, blues aren't adjustable) or if you REALLY want good shocks, koni yellows...
if you need to save up for shocks, you should be good with stock shocks for the time being
i have a 2.5" drop all around on stock shocks for like 4 months or so and i'm FINE
for a camber kit, you don't HAVE to end up spending $300 it all depends on how much correction you need. i got my camber kit for $160 and i'm fully back to stock specs on camber
for coilovers, i suggest skunk2 or ground control. for either of those you're lookin at around $300.
good luck man
ghost
if you need to save up for shocks, you should be good with stock shocks for the time being
i have a 2.5" drop all around on stock shocks for like 4 months or so and i'm FINE for a camber kit, you don't HAVE to end up spending $300
it all depends on how much correction you need. i got my camber kit for $160 and i'm fully back to stock specs on camber for coilovers, i suggest skunk2 or ground control. for either of those you're lookin at around $300.
good luck man
ghost
Since you are concerned with ride quality also, I would suggest the Ground Control, the springs are made by Eibach which is the best stuff around. Since you have a $600 budget the idea which was given about adjustable shocks is not going to work for you, those are $500-600 just for the shocks and are completely un-necessary for a typical daily driver. You aren't going to be changing your damping rate all the time so it's pointless to spend double the money to get cool features you probably won't even use. Get the Tokico blue shocks, you can get them shipped off Ebay for like $260 for the whole set, so with any spring setup even the best stuff you are right in under your budget.
since ur concerned with ride quality.. either get a $1000+ coilover system like Apex or (the better idea for ur situation) go w/ a simple springs/shocks setup.. don't drop under 2", stay around 1.8" or something.. the Eibach springs r good quality, i hear.. and as for the shocks, the ideal choice are Koni Yellows
he says he has a $600 limit. Go with the Ground Control adjustable coil over sleeves and i dunno what else to tell you because you really need to invest in some shocks. Koni reds will do fine for you but you will be going over your limit. Maybe try some KYB AGX's also. IMO you need to save a little more.pinoydon2003 said:since ur concerned with ride quality.. either get a $1000+ coilover system like Apex or (the better idea for ur situation) go w/ a simple springs/shocks setup.. don't drop under 2", stay around 1.8" or something.. the Eibach springs r good quality, i hear.. and as for the shocks, the ideal choice are Koni Yellows
But like pinoy says..to get the most comfortable ride you can go with a true coilover system such as Tein, Apex or Tanabe but will all be $1000 and up for just the coil overs not to mention the cost of shocks. If you want to go all out with the shocks...go with Bilsteins or Koni Yellows
True coilovers are a set of shocks and springs that are paired to go together.. For example, Apex'i World Sport coilovers are height adjustable springs on a threaded shock body.. The shocks are matched for the spring rates.. What I'm sayin' is, you don't need to go buy shocks, b/c it already comes with them..probinu said:he says he has a $600 limit. Go with the Ground Control adjustable coil over sleeves and i dunno what else to tell you because you really need to invest in some shocks. Koni reds will do fine for you but you will be going over your limit. Maybe try some KYB AGX's also. IMO you need to save a little more.
But like pinoy says..to get the most comfortable ride you can go with a true coilover system such as Tein, Apex or Tanabe but will all be $1000 and up for just the coil overs not to mention the cost of shocks. If you want to go all out with the shocks...go with Bilsteins or Koni Yellows
please bro dont go cheap ,dont do the same mistake i did. do not but coilover sleeves ,i know you are in a budget but is you wait for a while and buy true coilovers ,like the koni yellows. at the end there will be less hasle and money spend. check out this sites for more info.
www.speedandstyle.com
www.jic-magic.com
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How are Koni yellows "true coilovers"??? All they are is fancy shocks dude, not coilovers. And since when did Ground Controls become a "cheap mistake"? Straighten your facts out bud.2fst4u said:please bro dont go cheap ,dont do the same mistake i did. do not but coilover sleeves ,i know you are in a budget but is you wait for a while and buy true coilovers ,like the koni yellows. at the end there will be less hasle and money spend
As stated earlier, "real" coilovers have the threads to adjust the ride height right in the shock body so there is no sleeve over the shock. Adjustable coils and adjustable shocks are 2 different things. The coils determine the drop, the adj. shock allows you to change the way the shock controls the motion of the spring over bumps and in corners.
A basic coilover setup with no shock adjustability only ride height adjustability costs more than Ground Controls with Koni yellows and I'd love to hear real proof that the coilover outhandles that setup or is more comfortable.
I dunno.. My friend has Apex'i WS full coilovers on his Si.. He took me out on backroads one night and I was scared, haha.. It handles extremely well.. And it rides very nicely too.. I'm thinking about the same setup for my car.. It's only height adjustable though, not damper adjustable..
ok since this caused people to argue or give wrong info, sh*t whatever. So what is basically boils down to i need to have about 600-1k to spend. What is going to give me decent performance and not sacrifice too much comfort. 1. lowering spring with new shocks. 2. coilovers with new shocks possibly tokio blues/yellows. 3. same has 2 but adjustable coilovers. 4. adj coilovers with the shocks built into it.
I read somewhere 4 is the best way to go if you have to doe. But i am not sure what to get. I want something that will drop 1.5-2" and i prefer it to be adjustable, and i dont want the comfort sacrificed too much.
Thanx
I read somewhere 4 is the best way to go if you have to doe. But i am not sure what to get. I want something that will drop 1.5-2" and i prefer it to be adjustable, and i dont want the comfort sacrificed too much.
Thanx
yes the best and most comfortable way to go is to get a true coilover system (Tein, Apex, Tanabe) and they are adjustable but will be about $1,000biskey77 said:ok since this caused people to argue or give wrong info, sh*t whatever. So what is basically boils down to i need to have about 600-1k to spend. What is going to give me decent performance and not sacrifice too much comfort. 1. lowering spring with new shocks. 2. coilovers with new shocks possibly tokio blues/yellows. 3. same has 2 but adjustable coilovers. 4. adj coilovers with the shocks built into it.
I read somewhere 4 is the best way to go if you have to doe. But i am not sure what to get. I want something that will drop 1.5-2" and i prefer it to be adjustable, and i dont want the comfort sacrificed too much.
Thanx
Apexi World Sport Damper Kit???? Is this the coilover kit to go with? This site has them for $859 instead of $1088. http://www.abtivanconcepts.com/ Is this something worth looking into more? Also what does it mean by "no upper mounts"?
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