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sell your honda. you got taken advantage of, taken to the cleaners, ripped off. what was everyone thinking. you coulda had an escort, or a tracer, or a cavalier and had money left over. according to NATHAN123 they are/have "fucking econo engines". and since he is the know all/ end all. it was just stupid, retarded, dumb, pointless, and WASTE of money to buy such a savage piece of shit. don't bother modding it, unless your modding a american muscle car, your wasting your money. you'll never be as fast, or as good. it's no different than modding any other car, so why waste the money, sell that honda and getta CHEVY, or a FORD. did you know they're just as dependable if not more dependable than any other forgien piece of shit out there. they make more power per everything (liter, cc, bore, stroke, and whatever else you can think of), and get better same gas mileage. i personally can't believe honda is still in business. i'm guessing it's because no one knows this valuable info, so i just trying to spread it around. this info is not arguable or up for discussing. if you dispute NATHAN will change you mind and help you see the light. i think i'm gonna get a Ponatic SUNFIRE tomarrow, and shit, i'll have money left over from selling my honda and buying the sunfire. I'm thinking silver, i've always be partial to silver.

DO YOU THINK MY AEM CAI CAN BE MODDED TO FIT THE SUNFIRE. after all it would allow that big 2.2L 115hp beauty to breathe easier. and just think after all that modding, you'll be as fast as your 1.6L HONDA was stock. but it will justified, i mean it's american BABY YEAH!!!!!!! :rolleyes

if i haven't changed your mind yet, let NATHAN123 DO IT............... cut and paste these threads to change your mind..........
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203766
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196290
 

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Seriously this post is retarded.
Nathan has never said Hondas are total pieces of shit. BUt YES they are econo box's. But just like any car can be made fast with enuff money.
 

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exactly, YES, another agree!!!

SELL THE HONDA AND GET A CHEVY OR FORD and modd that, you'll have money left over. i'm just trying to spread the knowledge. :D
 

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Somebody's pussy hurts.
 

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Well, Camaros are not for everyone... but, YES, since you brought up that point... the vast majority of people here should have bought a Camaro (if they could afford it). Especially with the number of "drag racers" we have here. I mean, when you really get down to it, all most of these people want to do is have a fast car for cheap. The only people who really should have bought a Honda are:
parking lot auto-crossers
students/workers who really need >25 mpg combined city/hwy
people who prefer an S2000/NSX (i.e. money is no object)
people who just don't have the money for anything else (besides Escort/Cav, etc.)
people who have the time/cash/dedication to invest in a Honda economy car to make it really perform
don't mind the 25MPG thing, get a escort, it gets the same gas mileage.
REMEMBER> if you modd the honda your on your way to no where really fast
 

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I would not buy an Escort over a Civic.
 

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I would not buy an Escort over a Civic.
pshhhhh...theres goes the flattery again, well okay a sunfire.don't be discouraged though. if someone wants the escort, then it's cool. remember as long as it's american.
 

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no-one really likes NATHAN anyways. your civic is worth more than his ugly stock height SS. Seriously, the dude got no taste in cars man.
 

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i wonder how nathan is on the streets. maybe he's only got a big mouth online. he's probably one of those guys who reads books after books daily just so he can post book facts about cars online and make people think he really knows cars? nathan = teh gay, and needs to put his money with his mouth is. he probably wouldn't rev at a civic on the streets because he fears losing and it will hurt is domestic pride. :bye
 

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Sp00nerSI said:
no-one really likes NATHAN anyways. your civic is worth more than his ugly stock height SS. Seriously, the dude got no taste in cars man.

everyone has their own likes and dislikes...give the guy a break
 

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no-one really likes NATHAN anyways. your civic is worth more than his ugly stock height SS. Seriously, the dude got no taste in cars man.
His Civic is worth more than MY car? Are you on crack? From KBB.com:

2001 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe 2D

Engine: V8 5.7 Liter
Trans: 6 Speed Manual
Drive: Rear Wheel Drive
Mileage: 47,000

Equipment
SS Pkg
Air Conditioning
Power Steering
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Tilt Wheel
Cruise Control
AM/FM Stereo
Cassette
Multi Compact Disc
Premium Sound
Dual Front Air Bags
ABS (4-Wheel)
Leather
Power Seat
Rear Spoiler
Premium Wheels

Retail Value $20,095


That's odd. Last time I checked, ALL the '05 Civic MSRP's (except for that one model w/ CVT that you'll never see) were below that price. His is NOT an '05 (or anywhere close to it). And the $3500+ in factory performance options my car has, one of which lowers it 1.5 inches from stock ride height (bilstein/eibach suspension option), cannot be entered at KBB and makes the retail price LOWER than it actually should be.
Another odd point... I have no taste in cars, yet you drive and worship a cheap economy car.... :confused

Sp00nerSI said:
i wonder how nathan is on the streets. maybe he's only got a big mouth online. he's probably one of those guys who reads books after books daily just so he can post book facts about cars online and make people think he really knows cars? nathan = teh gay, and needs to put his money with his mouth is. he probably wouldn't rev at a civic on the streets because he fears losing and it will hurt is domestic pride. :bye
Money with his mouth is? WTF is that shit? Can you fucking speak english?

You are right about one thing, though. I DON'T rev at Civics in the street. I don't rev at anyone on the streets, whether I'm in the Jeep, the Mazda 6, the shitty (but free) ZX2, or the SS. Especially not when it's a Civic and a race with one would be similar to me having a boxing match with a drunken retarded pre-schooler.
And I don't fear losing. I am well aware that the 12.7 my car runs is faster than 99.9% of the vehicles on the road, and I don't really give a shit if the other .1% can beat me. I'm just not a stupid teenager who thinks they have to annoy/endanger everyone on the road.
 

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not trying to start a war but why are you on this board if you dont even own a honda? I know you pretty much post on every domestic related threads but thats not helping us any. if you have knowledge on hondas then thats fine. try helping on that for once. we all come to this board to learn about our cars potential and to try to help others with there questions about hondas. I seriously doubt any of us go to the ls1 boards and start talking shit to everyone on there who post against hondas. and when it comes to domestic vs import crap yes I have a 2002 Acura RSX-S that ran me about 25,000 w/2 miles on it. it might cost me alot of money but i could get a Cybernation stage 3 Turbo set up and totally annihalate almost any Domestic/foreign street car. check out the site cybernationmotorsports.com and let me know if 478 whp/357 tq @28 psi in 3rd is good enough for some respect? If you want to help me on this honda board then check out that site and let me know if this is a good kit to buy. and yes if I had a Camaro rest assured I would come to you for advice.
 

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nathan hasn't said anything wrong at all.


and who cares if he doesn't own a honda? When i read the user agreement prior to registration, it didn't say i have to have a honda to use this board. If anything, most of Nathan's post provided facts that are worth something. throw me a civic and a camaro SS and i'll take the SS anyday. If i wanted a grocery getter, i'd pick the civic but if i wanted potential, camaro SS.

I'm only against those who comes from another board just to bash on us without doing it at least in a professional way. The way nathan laid down the facts is more than convincing enough for me to know that he knows his stuff.

no-one really likes NATHAN anyways. your civic is worth more than his ugly stock height SS. Seriously, the dude got no taste in cars man.
no taste? I'm sorry but if your idea of having a civic is taste, i wouldn't be talking about an SS that will rape you in the butt all day and night in stock form. Think of all the mods that you'll need to even catch up to him when he's stock. yes, you might run 11s, but just do basic mods on the SS and you're gone. potential is with him.

check out the site cybernationmotorsports.com and let me know if 478 whp/357 tq @28 psi in 3rd is good enough for some respect?
that deserves some respect, but you're not going to run 28psi on that motor for a very long time despite what people say. Thats a lot of boost for daily, but it sure does make a good braggin rights though doesn't it? Take an SS and throw 8psi at it. I've seen many SS run 10s with just 8psi.

And before someone out there starts the "who cares if its faster in a straight line, take it to the twisties." BS, save yourself your breath because you'll get wasted on. Dream? nope..just reality.



Which leads me to the next point..hp/liter is gay. [/end of BS]
 

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2.0LMustangEatr said:
not trying to start a war but why are you on this board if you dont even own a honda? I know you pretty much post on every domestic related threads but thats not helping us any.

I think it does help some people. Even if you think it doesn't, at least you should admit that it does help remove some of the rampant ignorance that exists on this board.

if you have knowledge on hondas then thats fine. try helping on that for once.

I do, and I do.

we all come to this board to learn about our cars potential and to try to help others with there questions about hondas. I seriously doubt any of us go to the ls1 boards and start talking shit to everyone on there who post against hondas.

I don't come here just to talk shit. I've been here for a LONG time. If that's all I did, I'm pretty sure I'd have negative rep and most likely be banned by now. But that's not how it is. I assure you that any "shit talking" I do on here is NOT based on import-hate or anything like that. I dislike the same things as the majority of long time members here... mainly ignorance/stupidity and ricers.

and when it comes to domestic vs import crap yes I have a 2002 Acura RSX-S that ran me about 25,000 w/2 miles on it. it might cost me alot of money but i could get a Cybernation stage 3 Turbo set up and totally annihalate almost any Domestic/foreign street car. check out the site cybernationmotorsports.com and let me know if 478 whp/357 tq @28 psi in 3rd is good enough for some respect?

I'm not big on domestic vs. import, believe it or not. I truly believe that some of the best sports cars out there come from other countries. I also believe that, as far as economy cars go, Japan kicks the shit out of the US. I'm just more of a "use it for what it was meant to do" guy. That doesn't mean I have anything against an 11 second Honda Civic owner... in fact, that's pretty cool. And that doesn't mean that they are stupid for doing it. It's NOT the best/cheapest way to go fast, though, and the majority of people who actually build fast Hondas would not disagree with me on that point.

If you want to help me on this honda board then check out that site and let me know if this is a good kit to buy. and yes if I had a Camaro rest assured I would come to you for advice.
Checked out Cybernation.... and DAMN. That's some $$$. Looks like a very high quality kit, but Stage 3 would be severe overkill for a daily driven car. Plus, with a $9K price tag (not counting LABOR/TUNING and supporting mods like clutch, flywheel, tranny upgrades, etc.) you'll be spending probably $18k + in the end. But, if you're looking for max power out of the K-series, that would probably be a very reliable way to get it. At least as reliable at 25+ psi could be. :wow
 
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I appreciate the response Nathan123. You are right about all the ignorance on this board but thats because everyone has an opinion and its a never ending battle arguing until a mod closes the thread. then another will start. And I should have made this more clear that I wasnt necessarily singleing you out as a shit talker but more to the other Domestic drivers who sign up just to post on domestic related threads. But anyways thanks for taking the time for checking out the site. I will have the stage 1 kit on in march I just thought I'd throw the stage 3 in there in case someone wanted to see what the true potential of a K-series motor can do! Not to bad for a 4cyl!!!
 

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wow i keep thinking im in high school again i am so tired of these threads it isnt even funny, and the worst part is every website is exactly the same. as ive said before, who the hell cares they are all just damn cars people wake the f**k up. they are all just cars. i dont give a shit what you drive, i have seen every kind of car beat another, check out some of the videos in here, just last night i saw a civic rape a 60's camaro and then i saw a dodge omni beat a brand new zo6 corvette or what ever the hell its called, i mean a damn dodge omni people, so the point is theres always someone quicker, whether its a domestic or an import. so lets just have fun with what ever car we have no matter what it is hell mod a yugo for all i care, as long as you like it who gives a shit what other people think.thx for listening to my whining. bye guys. :eek:
 

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damn you guys need to STFU this is retarded

performance wise civics are on the bottom of the chain,you can make them fast but what cant you make fast?

Nathan does not talk shit,he speaks the truth.If you guys would stop hugging honda's nuts long enough to see that there are tons better cars out there to be fast in you would not waist bandwidth to make stupid ass threads like this.

:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes and :rolleyes
 

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98civic4door said:
damn you guys need to STFU this is retarded

performance wise civics are on the bottom of the chain,you can make them fast but what cant you make fast?

Nathan does not talk shit,he speaks the truth.If you guys would stop hugging honda's nuts long enough to see that there are tons better cars out there to be fast in you would not waist bandwidth to make stupid ass threads like this.

:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes and :rolleyes

I agree %100. Civics are low end econoboxes. Yes they can go fast with tons of money in them , but so can any car with the same amount of money. You guys are arguing a retarded point. Civic owners. . . Honda owners get no respect from anyone for a reason. Look at the poster of this thread. One of the biggest reasons why. Fucking kids with Hondas who think their dick is bigger than everyone elses even though they might run 15's at best. Revvin on people on the street. Shit like that makes me disgusted I even got into Hondas.
I have never had a problem with Nathan. Im also not some stupid kid with a sohc civic with an intake and fart pipe telling him i will woop on his SS. Grow up seriously. Respect comes mutually.
 

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this thread started out funny but from the 2nd page on, i agree w/ most of you guys...
when i first joined this site, i don't like Nathan's attitude at all...but i gotta respect for what he said though...his comments just scared the hell out of some ricers, ignorants on this board...lolz...
about import vs. domestic, who the hell cares of wat car you drive, as long as you have fun w/ whatever car u have...and don't think that "i'm the shizzz cuz i have a civic (or mustang, or watever)"...then we all get along easily... some guys on this board gotta grow up...
 
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