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so i did my stock engine swap and i think i had the F22B1 now i have the F22B6. i am wondering what the difference was between the 2 engines and what's the hp/tourqe specs for this engine. its in a 96 accord. thanx guys
 

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Well when my old motor blew (well was on the verge of blowing) i got and engine swap, the stamp on my car says F22B6. so now i have a Honda mini van engine in my car? and can i still get parts to fit my engine aka headers, CAI, cams and tru power pullies ect ect???
 

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i didn't purposely put in that motor. the engine shop TOLD me and quoted me a F22B1 accord motor. well i just noticed the stamp on the engine as F22B6! its all fawked up. im at 3000 rpm at 62 mph, its hard as hell to get to 80 mph and the guy said its still an accord motor but w/ odyssey compatible parts? thats the biggest load of S**T i have ever heard. i am totally pissed about it. i called them today and they said that the accord engine is compatible w/ the LX, DX and the odayseey?! and i dont think it is all all i mean i have never heard that shit. so my dad is calling them tomm and chewing their ass and telling them to give us the motor they told us we would give us or to pull the motor and refund our money. I am super pissed off. what are the exact engines that come in a 96 accord DX or what what's the best F22 engine?
 

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wait, i thought the oddessey was v6 from the begining??? how could a 4cyl pull a minivan like that?? i would take it back and demand they put the correct engine in the car!

i am! and if they refuse then its going to become a huge legal battle b/c they told me i would get a F22B1 or 2 not a damn F22B6. has anyone else heard of this engine in accords?
 

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metpage said:
wait, i thought the oddessey was v6 from the begining??? how could a 4cyl pull a minivan like that?? i would take it back and demand they put the correct engine in the car!
Odyssey for those years were available in a i4.
The odyssey used to be a smaller, rounder van, not the bigger angular one you see today.


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i am! and if they refuse then its going to become a huge legal battle b/c they told me i would get a F22B1 or 2 not a damn F22B6. has anyone else heard of this engine in accords?!
This engine was in an accord before and researching brings it up for an accord as well.
There are parts for the motor to build it up but you would prolly have to get less than name brand stuff for pulleys and ish........
If you want the engine code for a 95 EX, 5 spd accord it is F22b1 which is a 145hp/147tq SOHC VTEC engine.
I just ran my buddy tonight in his camry and I took his ass out in 2nd gear alone on my engine too. He was intake, header, exhaust and i was stock....nothign added or removed and with a/c on too.
 

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So the F22B6 is crap in an accord especially when it has accord and odyssey parts w/ it? I need help guys b/c we have already stopped the payment on the credit card. I want to F22B2 isn't that the engine that is SUPPOSED to go in my car? that's all i want is a freakin F22B2 is that to much to ask of a freakin engine exchange place? i don't think so :idiots
 

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make them buy you a H22 motor and take it somewhere else and have them put that in!!! :D
 

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Definitely the shop's screwup! :eek Make them pay but don't let them touch the car again. Odyssey had 4 cyl avail, even though most are 6cyl. You got a bad trade! Legally, the shop needed to replace your engine with OEM. They could get in trouble if you go after them with a lawyer. Chances are they will give you money to go away when they realize their mistake. Try being nice first, even though you want to screw them over. If that doesn't work, hire a lawyer and get nasty. I'm interested in how this comes out...
 

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So what's the difference?

HyperFlow02 said:
so i did my stock engine swap and i think i had the F22B1 now i have the F22B6. i am wondering what the difference was between the 2 engines and what's the hp/tourqe specs for this engine. its in a 96 accord. thanx guys

*edit* i had the non-Vtec. it was the F22B2 accord engine
On what data/experience are these opinions based? From what I can tell, the engine specs for a 1995 F22B6 Odyssey engine are identical to those for a 1995 F22B2 Accord engine:

Intake Valve Diameter: 32
Exhaust Valve Diameter: 29
Intake Stem Diameter: 5.485-5.495
Exhaust Stem Diameter: 5.45-5.46
Intake Installed Height: 48.08-48.88
Exhaust Installed Height: 50.15-50.95
Head CCs: 50.6
C/R: 8.8
Valves per Head (I/E): 8/8
Bore: 85
Stroke: 95
Single Cylinder: 539.08
Total Engine Displacement: 2156.31
Connecting Rod Length: 141.5
Connecting Rod Ratio:1.49

So what's the difference? What makes the "damn F22B6" a "crap engine" for an Accord? Perhaps whatever Honda did to optimize this engine for the heavier Odyssey platform actually increases flexibility for modification? Indeed, why isn't it a better choice?
 

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Definitely the shop's screwup! :eek Make them pay but don't let them touch the car again. Odyssey had 4 cyl avail, even though most are 6cyl. You got a bad trade! Legally, the shop needed to replace your engine with OEM. They could get in trouble if you go after them with a lawyer. Chances are they will give you money to go away when they realize their mistake. Try being nice first, even though you want to screw them over. If that doesn't work, hire a lawyer and get nasty. I'm interested in how this comes out...
yea man i am too. we have stopped the payment on the credit card b/c they have already told me they wont do anything. so once my dad gives them the option of either pulling the engine out and refunding our money and getting the job done somewhere else OR my layer will be getting involved. no need to hire one we have had the same layer for 20 years so with im not going to have to pay my lawyer to write them a letter telling them to do what we want. i will keep u guys posted.
 

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So what's the difference? What makes the "damn F22B6" a "crap engine" for an Accord? Perhaps whatever Honda did to optimize this engine for the heavier Odyssey platform actually increases flexibility for modification? Indeed, why isn't it a better choice?

b/c when i went to change my oil after the engine swap, i went and bought a fram oil filter for my 96 accord the same oil filter i have been buying for the past 4 years and has worked great. well after i got the oil drained and everything prior to that i go to screw on the oil filter and guess what, it doesn't fit! so i go and buy a oil filter for a odessey and it doesnt fit. I had to go threw 7 different oil filters to find the one I needed. that's why the odyssey engine isn't a good swap. b/c if something as simple as an oil filter doesn't fit, then what about other parts in the future?
 

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HyperFlow02 said:
so i go and buy a oil filter for a odessey and it doesnt fit. I had to go threw 7 different oil filters to find the one I needed. that's why the odyssey engine isn't a good swap.
If you couldn't get an Odyssey oil filter (or an Accord oil filter, for that matter) to fit on an Odyssey engine, then there is a different problem. For which vehicle is the oil filter you got to fit intended? Perhaps that would shed some light on your predicament.

From the Fram web site:

4-2.2L F/inj. SOHC F22B6 (Odyssey)
SURE DRAIN SD2
ExtraGuard PH3593A
ToughGuard TG3593A
DoubleGuard DG3593A
X2 XG3593A
Air Filters CA7420
Fuel Filters G7599
PCV Valves FV384

4-2.2L F/inj. SOHC F22B2 (Accord)
SURE DRAIN SD2
ExtraGuard PH3593A
ToughGuard TG3593A
DoubleGuard DG3593A
X2 XG3593A
Air Filters CA7420
Fuel Filters G7599
PCV Valves FV384

I'm still not seeing the difference between the Accord and Odyssey F22B2/6 engines. Please help me understand why it is not a good swap.
 

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maybe b/c i dont want a mini van engine in my accord. the oil filters do not fit. the o-ring on the filter doesn't screw in right in the block. the oil filter i have on there now is a STP oil filter that's all i know about it b/c when i was at the parts place they had to match up the oil filter by way of design and position of the o-ring not by make and model of the car. the engine is crap man. the acceleration sucks, i rev entirely to high and my car makes some made squellign noise everytime i turn on the car and everytime i idel for a bit. i dont think that has anything to do w/ the F22B6 in itself just a problem somewhere.
 

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HyperFlow02 said:
maybe b/c i dont want a mini van engine in my accord.
Can anyone explain what makes it a "minivan engine?" I don't want to hijack this thread, but I'm running out of ways to ask the question. My interest in this topic is simply that I own a '95 Odyssey EX and am curious how my engine differs from the Accord version. From my research so far, they appear to be identical, though it seems unlikely that Honda would have gone to the trouble of changing the designator without good reason.

Incidentally, my van continues to run strong at 123k miles and exhibits none of the issues described above. With a little tuning (forced induction?), it could be a potent sleeper!
 
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