FIVE SPEED REMOTE STARTERS

whatever you do you don't want to bypass the neutral saftey switch, manual or automatic. I had a foul experience with that. The second remote start ever installed was in a mercedes 560sl(the late 80's sport coupe). I had the dash all apart and had it in 1st gear so I could get the center piece out. I started doing all of my wiring, and I was almost done except for the trigger lead and the neutral saftey switch. I got up to get a new tank for the portable soldering iron(I worked at a quality shop, so all connections got soldered, and no cold solder joints from me). One of the other installers thought he'd give me a helping hand and put the fuse back in the brain. I was about 50 feet away and heard the fuel pump start, and knew all hell was about to break loose. Well it started and went underneath a van that was in front of it, crumpled the hood, shattered the front windshield, bent the I-beams, pretty much severed the intake manifold form the block, ruined both fenders. All I can say is that god for insurance. And that was an automatic, granted an automatic with twice the HP and torque the accord has(with it's meaty 338ci motor), but a sluch box will take some of the power away when the flywheel is spinning, just think what a stick would do.

I would help, but after that experience, I won't be liable for giving any information that could lead to that same disaster.

Hey Dustin,

haha, I kinda agree with what the other guys said, but. . .for academic purposes only:
I haven't done it with my accord (manual), but on my sister's old mazda, the clutch switch was causing problems (couldn't start the car even with the clutch fully depressed), so we stuck a paper clip in and shorted the switch...as I recall it was at the top of the pedal. (who knows if it's in the same place for honda). If you do this, make sure you always park in neutral, with the hand-brake pulled...and pulled all the way, too! the other day, I was driving our mazda van (also manual), and I pulled the parking brake (car in neutral), so I could move a shopping cart and park. As I turned around to get back in my car after I moved the shopping cart, I saw it was slowing "driving backwards"!!! Needless to say, I now pull my brake harder.

If you decide to do this, make sure you have a remote start turn off switch that is hooked up to the brain. This switch is like a valet switch so when you get it worked on at a dealership or wherever you flick the switch and they cant play with it.

Now, what I did on my 5speed civic was install a momentery switch in a blank on the dash, hooked it and a buzzer up to 2 relays. When the car is turned off, the buzzer will sound (showing me that the accessory 12 volts arent there any more which triggers the buzzer, the relay is powerd now with a constant 12 and the buzzer is grounded through the relay. That buzzer reminds me every time to make sure that the car is not in gear, then all I do is check the stick, make sure its in nutral and press the switch. That completes the circuit to the remote start by latching the other relay to ground letting the remote start to be activated and turns the buzzer off at the same time. Unless the buzzer goes out it wont start, its pretty much fool proof.

Now, if you go to a shop most installers are willing to do side work, tell them what you want and they should be able to hook you up. I would not consider installing this yourself, you need someone who knows how to make something like the buzzer thing I have work. But be prepared to fork out some cash, cause thats called custom work, and the better the installer, the better the job.

Oh, and Illusion, how did the car start if it was an automatic? Allmost all your automatic vehicles (that arent pos) have a neutral safety switch hooked up to the brake wire, or in better tearms a sort of shift lock out. Even with the car started and running, you still have to press the brake to shift out of gear. Most vehicles would have seen that its in another gear than nutral and would not have started. Maybe you got a messed up switching system in the car you worked on, but I have never heard of something like that happening in an auto. Not once in my installer days did it ever happen to me, like you said, insurance is a good thing.

Oh, and Im also using a Viper 550ESP, which is one of the best alarms on the market. I love DEI's stuff

Late,

Paul