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Im gettin a clutch soon and ive been told flywheels are awsome and ive been told they suck......WILL THEY MAKE MY CAR FASTER, WILL MY CAR STILL BE DAILY DRIVEABLE?
FLYWHEEL Y OR N?
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im about to buy one also.
so far ive heard it revs up and down quicker.
if u know how to control the car it shouldnt be a problem. Also its easier on the whole bottom end.
In other words if u drive a stock car and just need a new clutch theres no need for it .but if ur a mod. man like me u need it!
so far ive heard it revs up and down quicker.
if u know how to control the car it shouldnt be a problem. Also its easier on the whole bottom end.
In other words if u drive a stock car and just need a new clutch theres no need for it .but if ur a mod. man like me u need it!
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get one. i have the fidanze flywheel, i got it put in with my clutch and it is easily driveable. the flywheel, clutch, pulley combo dropped me 4 tenths in the quarter. It a great mod IMO.
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Good for handling , good for acceleration (tiny bit) , makes starting from a dead stop harder.....why because you need weight to move you...a flywheel basically has to be spun faster to make that same weight move....(more clutch slipping and wear)
So youll notice youll also be revving higher and harder to get going from a dead stop.....also making 1/4 mile launch consistency harder.....and on top of that the revs drop and raise quicker = harder to maintain traction again..
Good for the course/race-track/auto-x....bad for the strip and street (stop and go situations) in my opinion.
Ive had 2 , clutchmasters and act's. I prefer the heavier one....ACT's , it was like 19lbs from 22. While cm's was like 14lbs....or 55% reduction....
Also going uphill you will loose speed....while going downhill you will go faster.....
Yeah I know its a toss-up. In other words....I would waste money elsewhere on mods that will gain you power. T/B , Header , Exhaust , HF Cat , Cold-Air Intake and the such.
So youll notice youll also be revving higher and harder to get going from a dead stop.....also making 1/4 mile launch consistency harder.....and on top of that the revs drop and raise quicker = harder to maintain traction again..
Good for the course/race-track/auto-x....bad for the strip and street (stop and go situations) in my opinion.
Ive had 2 , clutchmasters and act's. I prefer the heavier one....ACT's , it was like 19lbs from 22. While cm's was like 14lbs....or 55% reduction....
Also going uphill you will loose speed....while going downhill you will go faster.....
Yeah I know its a toss-up. In other words....I would waste money elsewhere on mods that will gain you power. T/B , Header , Exhaust , HF Cat , Cold-Air Intake and the such.
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Yes get one...If you have to ever change out your flywheel down the road, you don't have to pay for the labor 2 times. Get it now
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btw, this is 1/4 mile mod only..i dont autoX..so its not a usefull mod for me?
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ill prolly do thatmike_sho said:
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Actually the ACT is 15 lbs, stock is 20 lb i believe. Clutchmasters is aluminum and should be 8-9 lbsmike_sho said:
i wouldnt if i were you...LudeAction said:
act does not sell lightened flywheels anymore (lightened oem)...
take advise from people that own or have owned a lightened flywheel... i have the jun ultralight fw, and i have absolutely no complaints... as a matter of fact, the car feels quite stock-like, even though the fw weighs 11 pounds... taking off from a dead stop feels normal, the car does not (noticeably) slow down while going uphill, and the rpm's do not drop like a rock when the clutch pedal is depressed... the engine does seem to rev a bit quicker...
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I've had the Fidanza ultra light one.
I like it alot, it did take getting use to when I first got it (maybe also because I put in a performance clutch in at the same time) but after that it wasn't hard at all on the street.
Revs up and down quicker, and like Mike_SHO said, it makes its hard to get going from a stop. But all in all, its not bad. I would get one again if I was to have that choice.
Streetability isn't horrible, not really bad at all in my opinion.
I live in San Francisco, alot of hills, and I can say it takes some getting use to with a lightened flywheel. But once you drive it a bit, and get embarassed a bunch of times by dying out, you'll get the hang of it and you'll be fine. (assuming, of course, you got skills driving your car.. heheh)
I like it alot, it did take getting use to when I first got it (maybe also because I put in a performance clutch in at the same time) but after that it wasn't hard at all on the street.
Revs up and down quicker, and like Mike_SHO said, it makes its hard to get going from a stop. But all in all, its not bad. I would get one again if I was to have that choice.
Streetability isn't horrible, not really bad at all in my opinion.
I live in San Francisco, alot of hills, and I can say it takes some getting use to with a lightened flywheel. But once you drive it a bit, and get embarassed a bunch of times by dying out, you'll get the hang of it and you'll be fine. (assuming, of course, you got skills driving your car.. heheh)
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I have an 8lb flywheel on my VW and i can say that the flywheel is nice. There is no noticable difference in accl, drivability goes down so slightly that it took a total of 30 seconds and 2 stalls to get used to the car. You realize the advantage of the flywheel when you have to downshift. Rev matching it MUCH easier and if you don't match perfectly the engine will match on its own without coplaining at all. This is a great upgrade if you auto-x and i highly recomend it.
The reason why most people say that drivability goes down when they install a lightweight flywheel is not because of the flywheel itself, but rather because while people install the flywheel they usually install a stronger presure plate and the increased grab along with the flywheel cause the engine to die more easily. The flywheel alone has little affect on drivability.....
The reason why most people say that drivability goes down when they install a lightweight flywheel is not because of the flywheel itself, but rather because while people install the flywheel they usually install a stronger presure plate and the increased grab along with the flywheel cause the engine to die more easily. The flywheel alone has little affect on drivability.....
i've got the fidanza, think its 9 lbs. i cant comment on the difference from a stock flywheel/clutch combo as i never drove the car when it was stock. I've had no problems with it at all, the revs dont drop like a rock and rev matching is easy, as was said before. Good mod in my humble opinion
i do know that my car revs up fast as a mofo but i cant compare it to stock....
i do know that my car revs up fast as a mofo but i cant compare it to stock....
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so would it be good to get a lightened flywheel just not too light
ex. lightened= around 15
too light= around 8
and again what is some good brands on the 15ish lb.
ex. lightened= around 15
too light= around 8
and again what is some good brands on the 15ish lb.
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The Hyper Single Clutch is engineered to optimize performance for cars that are moderately modified, but do not require the clutch capacity of a multi-plate clutch. Similar to our multi-plate clutches, it has a forged aluminum cover that is anodized purple. The aluminum cover is stiffer than a stamped cover and therefore allows a higher lever ratio to maintain the pedal efforts at a reasonable level.
All Hyper Clutches come with a steel flywheel and a 6-puck cerametallic facing, spring center damper disc assembly. The disc is generally smaller and thinner than the OEM disc making for lower inertia and therefore quicker, easier shifting and less wear and tear on the transmission synchros. The higher clamp load and cerametallic friction facings give approximately twice the holding torque of the OEM clutch and generally higher than other single plate clutches.
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EXEDY cerametallic clutches are designed to handle the abuse of high power modified engines. Our cerametallic friction material can handle much more slippage than stock type disc assemblies without slipping and fading.
All EXEDY cerametallic clutch discs have spring center dampers to reduce the impact and shock loads put into the drive train. This protects the transmission and the rest of the drive line system.
We offer two types of cerametallic discs -normal thickness and reduced thickness.
The reduced thickness (thin cerametallic) discs offer greatly reduced inertia to improve shift efforts, make for faster shifting, and improve synchro durability. These discs are approximately 1/2 the thickness of a stock disc.
The normal thickness (thick cerametallic) discs have better heat capacity and therefore better durability in demanding applications such as all wheel drive. Even with the normal thickness, our three puck cerametallic discs still typically have less inertia than a stock disc.
With any cerametallic clutch system, there will be some compromise of start up driveability as compared to a stock clutch (chatter on light throttle, low rpm start up). This characteristic is generally felt to be acceptable in modified performance cars. Drivers of cerametallic clutches on the street should be warned not to "ride the clutch" to try to reduce the chatter as this will greatly increase the wear. For Purchase information Please Click Here: :: EXEDY SPORT & PERFORMANCE CLUTCH SPECIALIST'S ::
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Racing Flywheels:
EXEDY Racing Flywheels are made from solid one-piece billet chrome moly steel or chrome moly steel forgings. They are specifically designed to reduce weight and inertia for better engine response. Most incorporate special design features to enhance the air flow to improve the cooling of the clutch. The ring gear teeth are milled onto the flywheel unlike an aluminum flywheel where the ring gear is pressed onto the flywheel which has the possibilities of separating from the flywheel. This could cause the flywheel to explode due to two different expansion coefficients (aluminum flywheel pressed on steel ring gear). EXEDY steel billet and forged steel flywheels have passed engineering tests to 15,000 rpm. They are guaranteed to be explosion proof at the said rpm. For Purchase information Please Click Here: :: EXEDY SPORT & PERFORMANCE CLUTCH SPECIALIST'S ::
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Hyper Single Clutch:
The Hyper Single Clutch is engineered to optimize performance for cars that are moderately modified, but do not require the clutch capacity of a multi-plate clutch. Similar to our multi-plate clutches, it has a forged aluminum cover that is anodized purple. The aluminum cover is stiffer than a stamped cover and therefore allows a higher lever ratio to maintain the pedal efforts at a reasonable level.
All Hyper Clutches come with a steel flywheel and a 6-puck cerametallic facing, spring center damper disc assembly. The disc is generally smaller and thinner than the OEM disc making for lower inertia and therefore quicker, easier shifting and less wear and tear on the transmission synchros. The higher clamp load and cerametallic friction facings give approximately twice the holding torque of the OEM clutch and generally higher than other single plate clutches.
As with all cerametallic clutches, the street driveability may be marginal due to chattering and harsh engagement characteristics.
An additional feature of the pressure plate is a series of turbine-like, air flow enhancing vanes that keep the clutch cooler under extreme operating conditions to improve wear life. For Purchase information Please Click Here: :: EXEDY SPORT & PERFORMANCE CLUTCH SPECIALIST'S
Single Plate Organic:
EXEDY Racing clutches with organic friction materials use only premium friction materials that are resistant to slippage and burst. Increased clamp loads give the necessary capacity to handle modified engines.
The driveability will be like a stock clutch. Pedal efforts will be higher because of the higher clamp loads. All of our clutch discs have high capacity spring center dampers to reduce the drive train shock and impact. For Purchase information Please Click Here: :: EXEDY SPORT & PERFORMANCE CLUTCH SPECIALIST'S ::
http://www.mitsubishigraveyard.com/direct.html
Single Plate Cerametallic:
EXEDY cerametallic clutches are designed to handle the abuse of high power modified engines. Our cerametallic friction material can handle much more slippage than stock type disc assemblies without slipping and fading.
All EXEDY cerametallic clutch discs have spring center dampers to reduce the impact and shock loads put into the drive train. This protects the transmission and the rest of the drive line system.
We offer two types of cerametallic discs -normal thickness and reduced thickness.
The reduced thickness (thin cerametallic) discs offer greatly reduced inertia to improve shift efforts, make for faster shifting, and improve synchro durability. These discs are approximately 1/2 the thickness of a stock disc.
The normal thickness (thick cerametallic) discs have better heat capacity and therefore better durability in demanding applications such as all wheel drive. Even with the normal thickness, our three puck cerametallic discs still typically have less inertia than a stock disc.
With any cerametallic clutch system, there will be some compromise of start up driveability as compared to a stock clutch (chatter on light throttle, low rpm start up). This characteristic is generally felt to be acceptable in modified performance cars. Drivers of cerametallic clutches on the street should be warned not to "ride the clutch" to try to reduce the chatter as this will greatly increase the wear. For Purchase information Please Click Here: :: EXEDY SPORT & PERFORMANCE CLUTCH SPECIALIST'S ::
http://www.mitsubishigraveyard.com/direct.html
Cerametallic Thick Cerametallic Thin
Racing Flywheels:
EXEDY Racing Flywheels are made from solid one-piece billet chrome moly steel or chrome moly steel forgings. They are specifically designed to reduce weight and inertia for better engine response. Most incorporate special design features to enhance the air flow to improve the cooling of the clutch. The ring gear teeth are milled onto the flywheel unlike an aluminum flywheel where the ring gear is pressed onto the flywheel which has the possibilities of separating from the flywheel. This could cause the flywheel to explode due to two different expansion coefficients (aluminum flywheel pressed on steel ring gear). EXEDY steel billet and forged steel flywheels have passed engineering tests to 15,000 rpm. They are guaranteed to be explosion proof at the said rpm. For Purchase information Please Click Here: :: EXEDY SPORT & PERFORMANCE CLUTCH SPECIALIST'S ::
http://www.mitsubishigraveyard.com/direct.html
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i hv the fidanza too, also, the UR crank pully, first 2 gear rev like a rock....good investment, get both if u can, u will know what means a faster rev up
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