Good to be Home Again!! Terrible story Hopefully turns out ok...Read ON

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TrboH22

Discussion Starter · Feb 11, 2002

Hey everyone this is VtecLude. Changed the name so it wasn't so much like Vtec Lude's. Anyways My new car that I bought. (JG Motor, JE pistons, Garrett t3/t4 turbo...blah blah blah check my sig for the rest). Well anyways I was driving around, and heard a ticking sound, I adjusted the valves and that didn't fix it. A couple days later the ticking turned into a violent knocking sound. Towed to an import shop called PFI in Fort Collins Colorado (a couple hours away), and they tore her apart and turns out that when JG Built the short block, they didn't leave enough bearing clearance, so the crank was starved of oil, and it spun a bearing. It trashed the Crank, the Rods, and all the little bits of metal flowing through my engine ruined the ball bearings in my turbo. My first estimate was $3410.00 without doing the turbo because they didn't know it was trashed. They sent my turbo off found out it was bad, and so 650 to fix it or a little over a grand to replace it with turbonetics new T60-1. the T60-1 of course flows ten times more air than a standard t3/t4, so I opted for that. Should have my car back this weekend (I hope). New total $4500.00 It's been 5 weeks now. Will post the pics soon.

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crudelude

· #2 · Feb 11, 2002

Man that sucks! I'm sorry to hear that. I wish I had the money to go turbo.

4bidden

· #3 · Feb 11, 2002

hopefully you didnt have to pay that $4500? im guessing not since you had a smiley at the end of your post....lol

TrboH22

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 11, 2002

4bidden said:
hopefully you didnt have to pay that $4500? im guessing not since you had a smiley at the end of your post....lol

Unfortunately JG Denies ever selling it, so they pretty much dicked me with the cost. Makes me glad I wasn't the one to spend the initial cost of everything. I bought the car with the built motor etc..had only 1000 miles on the new engine from JG. 2 weeks later all this happened. Car sounded fine when I bought it. if I had I would have 15,000 just in modifications. bought the car for 18,000, put 4,500 in it. Still a good deal, but still pisses me off. Has 20,000 on the car itself.

dangerzone

· #5 · Feb 11, 2002

TrboH22 said:
Unfortunately JG Denies ever selling it, so they pretty much dicked me with the cost. Makes me glad I wasn't the one to spend the initial cost of everything. I bought the car with the built motor etc..had only 1000 miles on the new engine from JG. 2 weeks later all this happened. Car sounded fine when I bought it. if I had I would have 15,000 just in modifications. bought the car for 18,000, put 4,500 in it. Still a good deal, but still pisses me off. Has 20,000 on the car itself.

I don't know about other states, but in Florida the motor rebuilder has to give 90days warrenty on motors they rebuild. JG, I have heard many people have problems with them. They were good tho. key word "were".

hope you get your car fixed, make it even stronger, and go kill some LS1's for us.

TrboH22

Discussion Starter · #6 · Feb 12, 2002

my first kill will defiantely be a 1999 WS6 Transam Ram-Air.
His dad was talking trash about my car saying his sons car would smoke my little "honda". Hondas arn't the fastest, it takes a ton of cash to build em up, but when you do get it where you want it, theres no greater feeling than ripping up a V8.

TrboH22

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 12, 2002

dangerzone said:
I don't know about other states, but in Florida the motor rebuilder has to give 90days warrenty on motors they rebuild. JG, I have heard many people have problems with them. They were good tho. key word "were".
hope you get your car fixed, make it even stronger, and go kill some LS1's for us.

The block came directly from JG in California. It was purchased from Javier (owner of JG). They told me no warranty, because it was a performance block, but then said they'd help me out on parts, but then said we have no proof of you buying it from us. They Hosed my ass.

rudeskawn

· #8 · Feb 12, 2002

Damn man that sucks bad! You don't sound like you are sweating it too much though!

4bidden

· #9 · Feb 12, 2002

rudeskawn said:
Damn man that sucks bad! You don't sound like you are sweating it too much though!

no kiddin!

whoever built that engine would have some issues with me if they sold me a expensive block and it blew and they denied selling it. you must have $$ rollin out of your pockets!

TurboNOSlude

· #10 · Feb 12, 2002

I love turbo...
Congrats on your WS6 kill. Here are my crowing achivements in three short weeks.

Before I tuned the motor...
The first kill was an Eclipse GST.... haha.
Next, I sniped a Mustang GT.

Then the car was tuned...
The first and and only race in top shape. Early 90s Porche 911.
He flew by me at like 100-120 mph, while I was geting on the highway. I caught him... I had to do 140 mph to catch up. I hit 140, and the car started to make lean pops... I thought it was ok... so I kept going.... we start weaving in and out of traffic... then he tries to take off... I was on his ass with room to go. Then the poop head got off the highway. I never got a side-by-side launch with him. I WOULDA HAD HIS ASS. But instead, I have a sour taste in my mouth about turbo.

But, I'm an ass... I keep on driving the car.
Here's what I've beat with a blown motor.
Dodge Stealth R/T twin turbo
and on friday...
Ford Lightning SVT.

You shoulda seen the look on his face when I beat his ass.... my car smokes like a bitch- worst of all... oil shoots out the exhaust... got it all over the damn bumper. Oh well.... it's still fast as shit. Can't wait to dial up the boost!

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lOOkatme

· #11 · Feb 12, 2002

Honestly....I wouldn't want a lude with a turbo. it just screams I need money to the owner....wait you will run into a ton of problems through out the cars life...tranny turbo clutch just everything. constent tuning. You may beat a stock WS 6...but you will have a hard time doing it. traction and handeling will never compare to a rwd car...period.

I was riding back roads in my prelude slammed and all my car wants to do is snow plow turns...rear end won't get loose really. the rx7 R1 I was with just leaves me in turns.

prelude are nothing like RWD cars....

Cost

· #12 · Feb 12, 2002

TurboNOSlude said:
my car smokes like a bitch- worst of all... oil shoots out the exhaust... got it all over the damn bumper.

Haha, sorry.. Man I wouldn't drive it if that was happening.

TrboH22

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 12, 2002

I realize that no honda has the potential of horsepower like V8 RWD Cars, but you have to admit that iit is cool smoking one. I see more tricked out imports than V8's. People with V8's seem to think there car is already fast enough stock, they just leave it that way. A lot of people with imports(not all because I see people in stock civics think they're the bomb) know that their car is not fast enought to beat a V8 and build it up.
P.S. I think with the things I changed I should be fairly reliable. No car with modifications can ever be as reliable as stock, but If I keep the boost down I'll have a better chance keeping mine in one peice than someone running 8 lbs on stock internals. Drag strip is the only place I plan on cranking it up, and if I'm lucky I'll go twice this year.

TurboNOSlude

· #14 · Feb 13, 2002

Turbo For all

lOOkatme said:
Honestly....I wouldn't want a lude with a turbo. it just screams I need money to the owner....wait you will run into a ton of problems through out the cars life...tranny turbo clutch just everything. constent tuning. You may beat a stock WS 6...but you will have a hard time doing it. traction and handeling will never compare to a rwd car...period.

I was riding back roads in my prelude slammed and all my car wants to do is snow plow turns...rear end won't get loose really. the rx7 R1 I was with just leaves me in turns.

prelude are nothing like RWD cars....

I have a thought. Have you driven a turbo lude? If not, I suggest you do. I own one... I will pay any cost, fix any part, and becasue I do, I will beat almost any car. I would have NO problems beating a WS6.... especially on the highway. Look at the cars I've beaten with a blown motor.

Untill you drive a turbo lude.... (especially one tuned as well as mine was) You have no idea. Other Turbo guys will agree with me... it's one of the greatest things in the world.

As you'll see... turbo bites you and gets holds you and won't let go. I can't wait to turn up the boost.

15PSI here I come!

RMdelsol94

· #15 · Feb 24, 2002

lol

chuck yoru somethign else, you wig me out haha....but we can't wait to see it!!!!

Cory

ps going up to dynamics on monday, i'll check her out for you..

mike_sho

· #16 · Feb 24, 2002

Gosh I would look into it more....also it doesnt make sense you said you bought the car with the engine , and ordered it?

Did you have the person who actually bought the engine use a credit card or check?

Also after I heaard about the turbo blowing , cant you get a filter on the turbine oil-line? After hearing that story...im certainly going to do that when i go turbo here in a bit.

dptkfil

· #17 · Feb 24, 2002

TrboH22 said:
Hey everyone this is VtecLude. Changed the name so it wasn't so much like Vtec Lude's. Anyways My new car that I bought. (JG Motor, JE pistons, Garrett t3/t4 turbo...blah blah blah check my sig for the rest). Well anyways I was driving around, and heard a ticking sound, I adjusted the valves and that didn't fix it. A couple days later the ticking turned into a violent knocking sound. Towed to an import shop called PFI in Fort Collins Colorado (a couple hours away), and they tore her apart and turns out that when JG Built the short block, they didn't leave enough bearing clearance, so the crank was starved of oil, and it spun a bearing. It trashed the Crank, the Rods, and all the little bits of metal flowing through my engine ruined the ball bearings in my turbo. My first estimate was $3410.00 without doing the turbo because they didn't know it was trashed. They sent my turbo off found out it was bad, and so 650 to fix it or a little over a grand to replace it with turbonetics new T60-1. the T60-1 of course flows ten times more air than a standard t3/t4, so I opted for that. Should have my car back this weekend (I hope). New total $4500.00 It's been 5 weeks now. Will post the pics soon. '

MAN THAT SUCK.. GO BACK TO THE OWNER AND COMPLAIN... HOPE THEY WILL REPLACE SOME OF THE PARTS FOR U....OR GET U A BIG DISCOUNTS..

dptkfil

· #18 · Feb 24, 2002

TrboH22 said:
my first kill will defiantely be a 1999 WS6 Transam Ram-Air.
His dad was talking trash about my car saying his sons car would smoke my little "honda". Hondas arn't the fastest, it takes a ton of cash to build em up, but when you do get it where you want it, theres no greater feeling than ripping up a V8.

I agreed

dptkfil

· #19 · Feb 24, 2002

Re: Turbo For all

TurboNOSlude said:
I have a thought. Have you driven a turbo lude? If not, I suggest you do. I own one... I will pay any cost, fix any part, and becasue I do, I will beat almost any car. I would have NO problems beating a WS6.... especially on the highway. Look at the cars I've beaten with a blown motor.

Untill you drive a turbo lude.... (especially one tuned as well as mine was) You have no idea. Other Turbo guys will agree with me... it's one of the greatest things in the world.

As you'll see... turbo bites you and gets holds you and won't let go. I can't wait to turn up the boost.

15PSI here I come!

I will have my hand and my feet up to agree with u... Man... If u have test drive a turbo charged prelude and boosting on 18 psi... u will love it, too... It doesn't matter how much i need to spent to maintan my car... I will get it back when i smoke a m3 or v8 camero...

TrboH22

Discussion Starter · #20 · Feb 24, 2002

All I know is my cars been gone for 6 weeks and I want it back. I'm going through withdrawls!!! Anyone wanna buy a 99 Prelude Base 5 Spd. I/E ??? My other ones for sale! 40,000 miles, black.

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