your confusing reliable with complication....hondas are more reliable but not less complicated....especially when you start talkign obd2 hondas... an awd turbo dsm isn't more complicated than an obd2 dohc vtec honda. look at a 1997 gsr vs 1997 eclipse gsx....you think a stage intake manifold, map sensor car with variable valve time electronic lift control is less complicated and easier to mod/tune than a dsm? they're map cars on top of that and have to store multiple maps for there vtec system to work properly where as with a dsm or nissan with the same feature the ecu just sees more air through the system and adjusts accordingly....