Ground Control or springs!

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LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · Feb 18, 2002

A few of you know that I will be ditching my Neuspeed Sports for a bigger drop.

I am back again researching the subject: Which springs or coilovers for my LX

Last time I was wanting a mild even drop that rode as close to stock as possible.

Now, I want the $hit slammed (0 finger gap max!!!) and a decent ride will do

At first the drop was all good with the sports. Then a few people were like, "is your car lowered" or "you need to drop it"

I then started to look at my car different and started comparing to others. The 0 gap just looks better and that is all there is to it. Probably rides like shit compared to how my set-up is, but that is a loss I am willing to take.

People say sleeved coilovers may slip at the threads. Now that I know what they look like and have experience installing a suspension. What is the difference in sleeved coilovers slipping and true coilovers not slipping? Both are on threads which allow you to adjust the ride height.

I see Ground control recommends Bilstein as one of the shocks to go with their sleeves. That is good for me since I have Bilsteins right now

What are your thoughts on GC's and my questions above?
Should I look into springs again? I will kill the person if my next set-up is not 0 finger gap :smoke:
Are the pictures in Super Street misleading about adjusting with one hand? ==> How the hell can you get your arm in there if it's slammed down

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LudeAction

· #2 · Feb 18, 2002

ground control is good...you can send me your stickers...lost mine

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 18, 2002

LudeAction said:
ground control is good...you can send me your stickers...lost mine

Write Neuspeed and and they will send you some. I have the yellow ones, but want white. So, I e-mailed them and 2 are suppose to be in the mail as we speak

Not sure if I will use them or not since I am ditching Neuspeed now...

munkeysoup

· #4 · Feb 18, 2002

if you want 0 finger gap, you will have a hard time finding the right springs, so i would go w/ the ground controls since you can change the height if you ever want to be practical and not drive on the ground.

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 18, 2002

munkeysoup said:
if you want 0 finger gap, you will have a hard time finding the right springs, so i would go w/ the ground controls since you can change the height if you ever want to be practical and not drive on the ground.

Yeah, I think I want it to where the rims are about even with the fenders. Maybe not quite that low, but you get the picture. I want the tires tucked away

I need to check my wheel offset to make sure I won't scrub or scrape.

Mojo-Jojo

· #6 · Feb 18, 2002

Are the pictures in Super Street misleading about adjusting with one hand? ==> How the hell can you get your arm in there if it's slammed down

Dude...you have to jack the car up first.

You gotta take the weight off the G.C.'s, THEN you can adjust the height

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 18, 2002

Mojo-Jojo said:
Dude...you have to jack the car up first.

You gotta take the weight off the G.C.'s, THEN you can adjust the height

That is what I thought! F**kin' false advertisement

StealthD16Z6

· #8 · Feb 18, 2002

LX98Civic said:
People say sleeved coilovers may slip at the threads. Now that I know what they look like and have experience installing a suspension. What is the difference in sleeved coilovers slipping and true coilovers not slipping?

On true coilovers the actual shock body is threaded. With a conversion kit you install a threaded sleeve over the shock body which in theory can slide. (This is probably why GC suggests the Bilstein body, they fit right?) The slipping in this case isn't the threads, it's the threaded sleeve.

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 18, 2002

Re: Re: Ground Control or springs!

StealthD16Z6 said:
On true coilovers the actual shock body is threaded. With a conversion kit you install a threaded sleeve over the shock body which in theory can slide. (This is probably why GC suggests the Bilstein body, they fit right?) The slipping in this case isn't the threads, it's the threaded sleeve.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

I'm going to write Ground control and see what they have to say..

94honda

· #10 · Feb 18, 2002

How much do ground controls go for?

Sportlines will drop you more then the sports will, or you can go with neuspeed race springs, no one should complain that about your ride looking like stock!!!

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 18, 2002

94honda said:
How much do ground controls go for?

Sportlines will drop you more then the sports will, or you can go with neuspeed race springs, no one should complain that about your ride looking like stock!!!

About $300 I believe for the GC's. May be chaeper on Groupbuy. I think I will go with the GC's. That way I know I will be happy with the drop

deMad10

· #12 · Feb 19, 2002

94honda said:
How much do ground controls go for?

Sportlines will drop you more then the sports will, or you can go with neuspeed race springs, no one should complain that about your ride looking like stock!!!

I bought mine for 290 shipped from GBC. You can't lower them like they show in the ad but they are still very nice coilovers and easy still to adjust.

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 19, 2002

deMad10 said:
I bought mine for 290 shipped from GBC. You can't lower them like they show in the ad but they are still very nice coilovers and easy still to adjust.

Have you set them to the lowest possible setting? What kind of drop is it like (at the lowest)?

How do you ride on a daily basis?

And who is GBC? thanks!

deMad10

· #14 · Feb 19, 2002

Right now I think I am about half way down the sleeve and my car is maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch lower than it was with my Sports. I haven't droped it all the way but it would be very low. I am on my studded steelies right now so I can't tell you how it looks with 17's.

I plan to ride down about 2 inches with my 17's to get rid of any wheell gap, like how you want yours.

If you are asking about the ride it is very nice. Slighly stiffer than the Sports, but not too much. I actually like the ride of the GC's better than the Sports. Handling feels more aggressive in the turns.

GBC is www.groupbuycenter.com
Great place to buy cheap parts.

LX98Civic

Discussion Starter · #15 · Feb 19, 2002

deMad10 said:
Right now I think I am about half way down the sleeve and my car is maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch lower than it was with my Sports. I haven't droped it all the way but it would be very low. I am on my studded steelies right now so I can't tell you how it looks with 17's.

I plan to ride down about 2 inches with my 17's to get rid of any wheell gap, like how you want yours.

If you are asking about the ride it is very nice. Slighly stiffer than the Sports, but not too much. I actually like the ride of the GC's better than the Sports. Handling feels more aggressive in the turns.

GBC is www.groupbuycenter.com
Great place to buy cheap parts.

Info is much appreciated! I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I am constantly surfing Groupbuy! I'm going to grab a set most likely before the Daytona Nationals

Do you have a camber kit at all?

deMad10

· #16 · Feb 19, 2002

I actually bought a full Ingalls kit with rubber bushings all the way around. I haven't put it on yet. Waiting to get my 17's back on and get my ride height set to where I will cruise most. I will have my camber set to that height. That way if I want to go up or down an inch it won't throw off my camber that much.

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