[Accord-ing2Me]

contemplating an h23 swap over an h22 swap. reasons being, dont have to mess with a vtec controller. also, im guessing i can get an h23 for cheaper. i know that the h23 has like 30 less horse then the h22 but im not too worried about that. i just want a moderately fast car. i just want my daily driver to have a little more balls when some punk azz kid in a civic thinks he is the fastest import racer in America. any input is appreciated. thanx

 

[TangCivicTypeR]

I would go H23. Just like you said, cheaper, you don't have to mess with the Vtec controler, and with the aid of a turbo, both engines can have the same ammout of power.

 

[SkateFenix]

haha, thats the same things i've been trying to figure out for my next accord soon cause that will determine which one i get. i'm leaning towards the h23 because turbocharging will definately be in my cars near future. also the h23 will be slightly better for the turbo since it has the extra .1 liter and a lower compression ration. but if your going all n/a i would suggest spend just a little more on the h22, gives ya more right off the bat.

 

[dohctor]

What was the h23 used for? was that the older Prelude motor?

 

[cryogen97]

h23 came out of the 92-96 prelude si
great for boost and/or nitrous. You can easily throw down some upper 13s with nitrous and some dyno time.

h22 is nice for upper end power or if you're just going for pure NA for longevity.

 

[95accord22]

and with the aid of a turbo, both engines can have the same ammout of power.

An H23 with turbo will kill an H22 with nothing...

I've been wondering the same thing. But heres basically what it boils down to for me. If I can find an H23 for around 1300 or less i'd probably get it. But anymore...and i'd probaby just get an H22.

 

[Accord92sir]

contemplating an h23 swap over an h22 swap. reasons being, dont have to mess with a vtec controller. also, im guessing i can get an h23 for cheaper. i know that the h23 has like 30 less horse then the h22 but im not too worried about that. i just want a moderately fast car. i just want my daily driver to have a little more balls when some punk azz kid in a civic thinks he is the fastest import racer in America. any input is appreciated. thanx

Did the h23.........It's not worth the time. It is almost equivelent to the price of swaping in a h22a, plus you'll have way more fun out of the h22a, the wiring of the h22a is pretty clean cut not too much work. The h23 felt more powerful then my accord stock, but It didn't gain much still lost alot.

 

[SuPeRaCcOrD]

I would put a fully rebulit H22 in my accord and swao the tranny form auto to stick cuz my shit is auto.

 

[Accord92sir]

I would put a fully rebulit H22 in my accord and swao the tranny form auto to stick cuz my shit is auto.

yeah it would be a serious waste to keep a auto on a h22a

 

[munkeysoup]

i dunno but putting a h23 in an accord really seems like a waste to me unless you were planning on going turbo. all that time and money for 15 hp? seems like a waste to me, maybe im missing something tho?

 

[cryogen97]

a little thing called torque. The h23 has more torque than the h22. and torque is what gives you acceleration, not hp.

 

[munkeysoup]

a little thing called torque. The h23 has more torque than the h22. and torque is what gives you acceleration, not hp.

really? the place i looked at had the h23 w/ 156 lb/ft and the h22 w/ 158 lb/ft. the h23 did make it at a lower rpm, tho.

 

[cryogen97]

93-96 Prelude VTEC
H22A:
- 190hp @ 6800rpm & 158ft/lbs @ 5500rpm


97-98 Prelude VTEC
H22A:
- 195hp @ 7000rpm & 156ft/lbs @ 5250rpm

I need to find the h23 torque again. I thought it had the h22 beat by 1 or 2 ft lbs and at a lower RPM

 

[Accord92sir]

93-96 Prelude VTEC
H22A:
- 190hp @ 6800rpm & 158ft/lbs @ 5500rpm


97-98 Prelude VTEC
H22A:
- 195hp @ 7000rpm & 156ft/lbs @ 5250rpm

I need to find the h23 torque again. I thought it had the h22 beat by 1 or 2 ft lbs and at a lower RPM

yeah true, but a h22a would be nice to turbo has well don't you think cryogen

 

[Accord92sir]

oh has a added bonus if you have a manual accord, you can just swap the h23 motor in, no re wire no ecu needed, and it would be freaking fast with a 75 shot.........I smoked plenty of GSR's that way. its a very good low budget setup

 

[Accord-ing2Me]

turbo

here is the idea that is runnin in my head.

get an h23. rebuild it with some tough internals (cams, pistons, and all that good shit).. get maybe a t3/t4 hybrid ball bearing turbo.. or maybe something bigger depending on if i really want it to go fast or just moderately so. most likely gonna shoot some NOS...

dont get me wrong, an h22 would kick some major ass but im gonna try to get the motor for under $1500 if possible and that is more likely to happen with an h23. ive seen some ads on ebay for under a grand for both the h23 and h22 but i havent got the cash yet. two months and ill have enough to carry out the engine and another six for the rest.

im indirectly trying to pay off all bills and get a house but i dont want to leave my car alone. after awhile a car just gets boring to drive unless there is something fun about it.

thanx for all the input.

 

[2.3DOHCvtec]

why not go for the type s engines?? supposedly the h22 and the h23 type s comes in 200 hp stock rite? correct me if i'm wrong on this. and with a bit more torque the h23 could pull away from the h22 rite?

 

[What Is That]

ok peepos comparsion time its like ls and a gsr is the same as the h23 and h22 the ls which is the non vtec integ motor and gs the vtec motor the ls would kik the gsr's ass off the line but in mid 2nd and 3rd the gsr will catch up but if u put a turbo on a ls its the best way to go its the same thing with the h23 it will the kik the h22's ass off the line but it will catch up in higher rpm's when that vtec actually start

exp:
Starting line
h23 .........[ ]
h22 ...[ ]
Mid track
h23 ........................[ ]
h22 .......................[ ]
End track
h23 ..........................................[ ]
h22 ...............................................[ ]

Can you tell im bored welps it would help out the peeps that dont know o welps

 

[SuPeRaCcOrD]

Man...! personaly I think that the Honda manufactures should have put H22's in all there cars except the S2k.

 

[KustomPrelude]

i think u should go with the h23. they are supposed to be able to handler more hp than the h22. but i am not sure.