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Ok so here is the deal. Since I have done my H22A swap I have been without reverse. It does not go in at all! Every other gear is fine no prob. So I had the guys who did the swap take the transmission off and inspect it (friends i trust). When they took the transmission off they didnt find a single thing wrong with the transmission. They said its on of the cleanest ones they have ever seen. They did say there was some very minimal (normal) wear on the 5th/reverse gear but nothing that should keep it from going in. AND... to top it all off they can put it into reverse now that they have the transmission off the motor, but they also said that nothing seemed to be wrong with the cables. I think i covered it all.... so WHY woulnt it go into reverse?? im hoping once they put the tranny back on the motor it will be ok now but if not, what could it be? has anyone ever had this problem? its killing me and i want my reverse back! :bash

on the positive side they are putting in a fidanza flywheel (free labor) while i have the tranny cracked!
 

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anyone? i have my fingers crossed because i cant stand driving the 8 valve - 4spd 4th gen hatch anymore.
 

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I took out my transmission last week to replace a bearing, and everything looked brand new (even the synchros) but the reverse gear and the gear it engages with were a little worn. This does not suprise me because it is sometimes hard to get into reverse. It has to do with the design of honda transmissions, I suppose. It is nearly impossible to grind 1-5, but the way reverse engages seems to be different. You get the idea if you take both hands, spread out the fingers, place one hand above the other, and lower the top hand until you have 10 fingers in a row. If you do it a few times, the fingers will collide, just like your reverse idler gear collides with what it engages to. After a while, it wears and becomes hard to engage (but will still work perfectly fine once it is engaged). Long story short, I think it was more than a little worn and that they should replace those two gears. Also make sure they check the tolernaces that deal with the reverse system (four that deal with the reverse change holder alone). If they are out of whack, the reverse change holder needs to be replaced.
 

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ill mention that but i went by there yesterday to take a look and hes right about the wear on the reverse gear, it was very minimal, i actually couldnt even tell myself but he said the tops of the teeth were a tad worn (but nothing un-natural). it still doesnt make sense that it wouldnt go into reverse EVER and now it does. today is the last day they are gonna prob mess with it and then they have to assemble it and get my car outta the shop since they have other bussiness to attend to. ill have to just cross my fingers!!!

the one guy mentioned the linkage cable could possible have been stretched and it may be keeping it from going into reverse but that was just a guess?! ive been without reverse for sooo long and i cant stand another day in this civic! :bash

ps: does anyone know what kind (brand) of lsd comes stock in the H series tranny? he mentioned i had some brand of lsd (forget) in there and he didnt think it was stock... so i may have an upgraded lsd?!
 

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ok so they have done everything they possibly can think of. they replaced some syncros and gears... it will go into reverse when the transmission is out of the car but once they put it back on it woulnt budge into reverse. if they cant figure out whats wrong by tomorrow they are gonna have to put a new tranny on it which wouldnt have LSD. PLEASE someone help, i really want to keep my LSD but they cant figure it out! ANY IDEAS?! :bash

Please help me from losing LSD!
 

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Tell them to replace the reverse change holder. It is a wear component in the reverse system. If it is out of spec, then it doesn't matter how good the reverse idler gear and synchros look. I'm pretty sure that the problem is that something is out of spec and they haven't checked all the clearances.
 

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you wouldnt happen to have a diagram or picture of what this reverse changer holder looks like would you? i may go see if i can get one off another h tranny tomorrow. thanks!
 

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904lude said:
you wouldnt happen to have a diagram or picture of what this reverse changer holder looks like would you? i may go see if i can get one off another h tranny tomorrow. thanks!
Indeed I do. This is the reverse change holder on a B18C1 transmission.


The two parts that wear are the upside-down L-shaped cutout on the left, and the fork part that lifts the reverse idler gear.

Some other tolerances they should be checking on the forward change holder:
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_024.jpg
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_025.jpg
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_026.jpg
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_027.jpg
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_028.jpg
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_030.jpg

Complete forward change holder assemby:
http://portfolio.iu.edu/bchang/Pics/Tranny_Overhaul_035.jpg
 

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rep + 1 !!!
wow i wasnt even expecting that THANKS!!!
ill let them know, ill be on later to update.
 
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