hydro tranny and cable tranny

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3gen-ludacris

Discussion Starter · Sep 15, 2002

i have a cable tranny in my 3rd gen lude, and im going to (when i get the cash) swap in an H22 but the H22 im lookin to buy has a hydro tranny, is that good or bad in like the performance area, or is it exactly the same, and how can i swap it in, are there any conversion kits, because at one time i coulda swore i saw a cable to hydro conversion
Thanks for your help
Adam ([email protected])

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Turbo Lude SH

· #2 · Sep 15, 2002

Well I suppose you've got 3 options:

1) Contacting Place Racing and asking them to make you one of their conversion kits that they used to sell for swapping in H22's into CRX's.

2) Making the conversion yourself, wouldn't be too hard, but I havent seen it done myself.

3) Converting your car over to hydro, you'd basically need everything to do a manual swap but just do it with Hydro compenents.

I'd just swap in a cable B16. Or maybe a cable LS engine and go LSVTEC. But since your going to be doing your own mounts, shift linkage, etc you might as well go with the H22.

3gen-ludacris

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 15, 2002

well place racing makes a complete swap to my car for the h22, but i dont think it involves any shift linkage, so everything else is taken care of except the cable/hydro issue, and i dont want a B16, cause i found an h22 cheap as hell so ima buy it, and its lots more hp, and i dont wanna go down in displacement

4bidden

· #4 · Sep 16, 2002

tell me where you found a hydro h22? no such thing man....

sirxlaughs

· #5 · Sep 16, 2002

the 90-91 preludes have hydro trannies..
u can always try to swap out parts from those..
i'm assuming since u say u have a cable tranny, you have an 88-89 model..

3gen-ludacris

Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 16, 2002

yup i do, and thanks man ill look into that

Turbo Lude SH

· #7 · Sep 16, 2002

4bidden said:
tell me where you found a hydro h22? no such thing man....

All H22 trannies are hydro. I dont know what your talking about....

4bidden

· #8 · Sep 16, 2002

how you figure man? why did i have to replace my shift linkage and not some steel rods then?

Turbo Lude SH

· #9 · Sep 16, 2002

4bidden said:
how you figure man? why did i have to replace my shift linkage and not some steel rods then?

Because "Hydro" and "Cable" refer to the mechanisms that actuate the clutch, not the shifter. Hydro trannys use hydraulic lines and cylinders to actuate the clutch while cable trannies use a cable mechanism simular to a throttle cable but much larger.

4bidden

· #10 · Sep 16, 2002

Turbo Lude SH said:
cable trannies use a cable mechanism simular to a throttle cable but much larger.

correct, that is how h22's are

Turbo Lude SH

· #11 · Sep 16, 2002

4bidden said:
correct, that is how h22's are

No they aren't. You're thinking about the transmission shifter cables, which are totallty different than the hydraulic system which actuates the clutch.

H22 engines = Hydraulic Clutch. Cable Shifter.
1st Gen B series engines = Cable clutch. Rod Shifter.

sirxlaughs

· #12 · Sep 17, 2002

going bak to the subject of the original post..
instead of swapping in the h22..
u can put in a jdm b20a..
that way, u don't have to swap out your tranny..
unless u've got the carbeurated model.. which is another world of problems..
but if u have the b20a5 in there already.. u can get the jdm b20a.. do a little building and go turbo..
go a lot faster than the h22
check out www.ludespeed.com for info on the turbo

sirxlaughs

· #13 · Sep 18, 2002

does anyone know of any shops that'll do an auto to manual conversion in the queens/long island area in ny?
i need to get some quotes on labor costs for this..
i have all the parts.. now i just gotta get them in

3gen-ludacris

Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 18, 2002

hey sirxlaughs, i was gonna go that way, but the HP per dollar ratio is alot higher than goin with a h22, with the jdm b20, and a turbo id be pushing maybe 220 at the MOST, and thats at alot of boost, with the h22 its stock at 210 (im gettin jspec) and with an intake and full exhaust and ignition system with the S-AFC Vtec controller, im hopin to get 230 out of it, and its about half of the cost, on top of that i dont have to bother with trying to find a jspec b20

sirxlaughs

· #15 · Sep 18, 2002

i think u got yer numbers a little mixed up..
the jdm b20 with intake, exhaust..
and an untuned turbo at 8psi on a stock motor did 206 at the wheels on chris' 90 prelude (he was webmaster of hp.com)
the h22 that pushes 210.. 210 is at the flywheel.. they do about 170 at the wheels..
intake, headers, exhaust, v-afc.. they push about 180-190..
i don't kno too much about the h22a, but there are plenty of ppl on this board that probably do seeing as most of them are 4th and 5th gen owners..
but i really think the turbo would be your best bet..
on a built motor, worked fuel setup, u can easily get around 210-250 wheel hp with about 10psi..
stock motor and fuel setup, i've been told, can safely take up to 6psi.. and with that, yer lookin at around 170 whp..
rite now, i just wanna find a good shop to convert my car to stick..

i'm getting all the parts tomorrow, i just need someone to put'em all in.
good luck
oh yea.. just in case u were curious, my current setup is :
91 Si B21a1
intake
dc ceramic header
21/4 exhaust
random tech hi-flow cat
carbon fiber hood
aem cam gears (still set at 0/0)
eibach pro's w/ tokico blues
and last, but not least, waiting for my auto to stick conversion..
shifter cut 2.5 inches.. mite cut it more after i try it out..

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