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I was thinkin to get rid off the plastic panel that is attach to the front bumper. where the CAI intake filter is to allow it to suck more air would that help in the airflow ... it could probably to expose ...

would it be suckin to much dust and dirt ?

anyone tried this?
 

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yes, in order to have CAI in the accord you have to take out the box that is in the front bumper
that stupid big piece of plastic shit that is nothing but weight
i have taken it out
its not hard at all , take ya 5 mins
and yes it is more exposed to more cold and fresher air , rather than warm air that is under the hood

you do have to keep maintainance on the filter but thats why its there to prevent excess amount of dirt or dust
and oil changes have to be monitored too , but i dont have to tell you guys that

the only way to suck up water is if you freaking drive through 1-3 feet of water
and i know no one would do that cause its just plain common sense even if you dont have a CAI
 

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I'm not talkin about the black box you have to take out when you install the CAI. It's the plastic plate under the front bumper or maybe just make a hole where the intake is to allow it suck more air.
 

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you could do that or i think a safe bet is too cut an opening in that panel. not so big that water could easily get in but big enough for an increase in airflow.
 

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you can cut a hole on the front of your bumper...technically more air will be hitting the filter but with it of course there will be more dirt...you will have to clean filter more often
also the only way to suck up water with CAI is to completely submerge the filter otherwise it does not suck water up its all a big myth...and spray will not get sucked up either
one of my friens made an air duct in the front of his bumber with custom intake so that air is forced right down the freaking pipe...as far as i know he has no problem with it...
 

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Maybe changing the bumper to this may help:



However, the unfortunate side effect is that you will be pulling more dirt into the filter, due to the exposure. As far as sucking in water, it's very unlikely that rain will be sucked into the intake.
 

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you have to drive through water 2 feet deep for CAI to suck up water... I'm goin to try doin that this weekend
 

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Ram-air type of stuff usually doesn't work as well as you would think until you get up into real high speeds.

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you have to drive through water 2 feet deep for CAI to suck up water... I'm goin to try doin that this weekend
I've read a lot of people saying that you have to basically totally submerge the filter before it sucks up water, but I also know of people that have had to rebuild their engines without going through "water 2 feet deep". I think daily driving is ok, but I'm not totally convinced that absolutely no water reaches the engine.
 

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i took out that rubber plate under my car cuz of the body kit, but just recently i had my throttle body port and polished and when we took off the CAI and throttle body there was crazy water and dirt buildup....that could be prevented by cleaning your filter more often if you take off that plate. also if you have a chance, take off the throttle body and clean that out, you'll feel a dramatic rebirth of your car's breathing....
 

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the innder fender liner protects the filter from all kinds of crap thrown up from the road and off your tires. I left mine one so I wouldnt have to clean the filter every month. My friend has no liner and his CAI has one side of the filter so clogged with dirt its not even funny...
 

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well If I build a mesh to filter the debris and dirt before they reach the intake would help and maybe avoid that problem.... I was just thinking of cutting a hole and not taking off the whole plastic plate... usind the hole as a frame ...


what you think a little more work but it may improve air flow ...
 

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Try driving 3 hours in moderate rain and sucking up water slowly until your motor is water-logged... then sit in the cold with a car that doesn't start for 6 hours until you finally get towed after being refused because being a "low-rider" by 14 different tow-services... that would suck pretty bad wouldn't it?

you don't have to submerge the thing in water, but my filter was pretty exposed way back when, so constant exposure and water build up little-by-little can screw things up as well.

as for dirty filters, etc... if you read up on K&N's documentation, they actually state that a dirty filter works more efficiently than a new lubed filter... they're supposed to be dusty or somethin to work best... something to do with the oil used on the filter. just make sure there's no debris in the way of the filter sucking air, etc.

oh yeah, and cut the hole at the bottom to suck more air, but be prepared you will notice so little performance that it just might break your heart and realize that cold-air/hot-air it's all bullsh*t and you're really not gaining much at all. they may work well in conjunction w/other mods, but alone they ain't doin a whole lot.

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What gains can you expect with that ?
how much did you pay ?

some people told me about doin that
i got mine done for free at my crew's garage...i havn't dynoed my car after the operation so i don't know numerical gains, but let's just say that the vtec can really be felt kicking in and high-end performance was boosted....but the intake manifold and exhaust ports should be done too in order to see some hardcore gains.
 

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I'm not talkin about the black box you have to take out when you install the CAI. It's the plastic plate under the front bumper or maybe just make a hole where the intake is to allow it suck more air.
well i kinda figured you removed the plastic covering on the underbody when you removed your box to install the CAI
makes more sense cause if you still had the plastic piece in there
there would be no cold air being sucked in

and who cares if the filter gets all dirty and dust, thats why you keep it clean every month

all makes perfect common sense
 

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that cold-air/hot-air it's all bullsh*t and you're really not gaining much at all. they may work well in conjunction w/other mods, but alone they ain't doin a whole lot.

I totally agree with you , but I already have all the rest .... AEM CAI , headers, and nice exhaust system :D ... I just wanted to push it a little more getting some extra air in ...
 

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i really doubt that the innder fender liner is the limiting factor in air flow into a sohc family car engine....
 

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what exactly is that you do with those thing that give more hp do you have to buy new or do something to the one you already have...

I know you gettin hook up but what is money involve in doin something like this ?


I'm really interested in doin somethin like this but I need more info
 
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