So we agree the ITR was better built with more engineering for racing. It doesn't matter if I or the OP will be racing. I don't "need" anything that is on my car. But it is a fun hobby for me and if like to have the best motor that came in that car, so be it, I'm going to get it. I built my car as an all around car. It looks great, handles great, and now will perform great. The ITR is well WORTH the money if you have in mind that those aren't just any stock motor. I'll take a stock ITR over a built GSR any day. And no, if the GSR was built the same way as the ITR, I would want it to. Sorry I like to have the best of the best, is that a bad thing or are you just foamin?No one is saying the ITR isn't a better motor than the GSR. We are saying it's a waste of money for what you get that is BETTER. You can reach the same level of performance by putting ITR cams and a Skunk manifold and a retune on a GSR motor.
The ITR motor was built with racing in mind, circuit racing where you are beating the shit out of the motor for extended periods of time, hrs of racing. Where shit needs to last and all that little shit makes a difference. You don't race, his friend isn't going racing nor is he building a race car and if one were going to build a track car, most would BUILD a motor to do so and use more expensive parts that are even BETTER than the stock ITR parts from Honda. Which is fucking obvious, or there wouldn't be so many tuner companies in Japan.
His friend sounds just like you, I want ITR cuz it's itARRRRR yo. :lol