koni yellows vs. neuspeed koni's

element h22 · 2002-02-27

i ordered the regular koni yellows yesterday and what is the difference between the two? is there a perch setting on the regular ones? etc... peace!

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idriveacivic

· #2 · Mar 4, 2002

this is what neuspeed said

Because the shocks feature adjustment of the rebound damping, we specified no difference in valving. Our version does incorporate a 20mm shorter piston rod for more compression travel on lowered vehicles. For further information, please call us.
Thank you for your inquiry.

-JC

http://www.neuspeed.com

NEUSPEED
3300 Corte Malpaso
Camarillo, CA 93012
800.423.3623
805.388.7171
805.388.0030 FAX

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-----Original Message-----
From: jc [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: diffrence between neuspeed koni sport shocks and regular koni sport shocks.

I own a 2000 civic ex sedan. I'm in the market for shocks and was wondering what is the diffrence between th e Neuspeed koni sport shocks and the "regular" koni sport shocks. I know that they have 5 perches vs 3, but was wondering if there were any other diffrences, ie valving?

Thanks

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idriveacivic

· #3 · Mar 4, 2002

and just in case you need to reorder...

I will gladly match that price for you. If you are interested, please call
415-594-0030.

Mach III

-----Original Message-----
From: John [mailto

sugarhillumc.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Price on Neuspeed Koni sport for 2000 civic ex sedan?

A gentleman was advertising on the Superhonda.com web board that me
purchased Neuspeed Koni adjustable shocks for his 2000 civic SI for $480.00
with $15.00 shipping charge. What is your price for these shocks for my
car? The link below will take you to the post where the Gentleman
advertised. http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=448

Thank you for your time.

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element h22

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 4, 2002

are the neuspeed ones a lot better??? i ordered the regular ones... did i make a mistake???

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idriveacivic

· #5 · Mar 4, 2002

element h22 said:
are the neuspeed ones a lot better??? i ordered the regular ones... did i make a mistake???

Better?, depends on your application. The 20mm shorter rod will help you out if you really lower your car. Effectivly giving you 20 more mm of piston travel before you bottom the shock out.

Otherwise, except for the perches they have the same "guts".

and 495 is the cheapest i've seen for either one.

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lOOkatme

· #6 · Mar 4, 2002

idriveacivic said:
Better?, depends on your application. The 20mm shorter rod will help you out if you really lower your car. Effectivly giving you 20 more mm of piston travel before you bottom the shock out.

Otherwise, except for the perches they have the same "guts".

and 495 is the cheapest i've seen for either one.

actually....wouldn't the distance of the actual shock body determine if you would bottum the shock out...nothing to do with the piston.

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element h22

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 5, 2002

i got mine for 500 shipped

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idriveacivic

· #8 · Mar 5, 2002

i'm glad someone is watching me.

This is what I've found so far about the koni's.

The middle picture shows the difference in the shaft length on the rear dampers, and the far right picture shows the difference in shaft length of the front dampers. When dropping the ride height of a car, shorter shafts are desirable so that the spring does not lose contact with either spring perch. from http://ntpog.server101.com/reviews/groundcontrol/groundcontrol.shtml

and the pics...

and

I've got an email out to Koni north america about this.

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lOOkatme

· #9 · Mar 5, 2002

neuspeed koni's will not prevent bottuming out the shock any more than the regular koni's since it has the same shock body length. they are wanted because they will last longer than regular koni's lowered due to the shat piston being shorter having less distance shoved down into the shock shaft.

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idriveacivic

· #10 · Mar 5, 2002

lOOkatme said:
they are wanted because they will last longer than regular koni's lowered due to the shat piston being shorter having less distance shoved down into the shock shaft.

i'm not sure of that, but i emailed koni about the rod length and all disadvantages of the shorter rod and this is what he said.

The shorter length is in max length only. This is done by adding rebound stop to the inside of the shock to decrease its maximum length. The biggest advantage to this when these shocks are paired with lowering springs. The shorter max length will sometimes help to keep the spring from falling out of the spring perches when the car is jacked up. Otherwise, the shocks perform the same. Note that most of the Neuspeed shocks also has 5 ring grooves to adjust the ride height over the standard two for the Sport models (it does depend on the application though). If you have any other questions, please let me know. Thanks.

this makes it sound like the overall rod length is still the same on both models, just that the neuspeed has the "rebound stop" to prevent the rod from coming out as far as the ones without.

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lOOkatme

· #11 · Mar 5, 2002

idriveacivic said:
i'm not sure of that, but i emailed koni about the rod length and all disadvantages of the shorter rod and this is what he said.

The shorter length is in max length only. This is done by adding rebound stop to the inside of the shock to decrease its maximum length. The biggest advantage to this when these shocks are paired with lowering springs. The shorter max length will sometimes help to keep the spring from falling out of the spring perches when the car is jacked up. Otherwise, the shocks perform the same. Note that most of the Neuspeed shocks also has 5 ring grooves to adjust the ride height over the standard two for the Sport models (it does depend on the application though). If you have any other questions, please let me know. Thanks.

this makes it sound like the overall rod length is still the same on both models, just that the neuspeed has the "rebound stop" to prevent the rod from coming out as far as the ones without.

the reason they did it from the statement is lowering springs are shorter...and they made the shaft shorter to accomodate shorter springs. so the new smaller lowering spring will always be compressed. no free play at all. which is awesome!

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