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where the hell is the plane. can you find it. i forgot the govenment is so poor that it doesn't have camara's that record real-time, but 7-eleven does. all bull shit. on fox the guy was trying to make excuses and say there was a glare:lmao. wow are we that dumb.


See the bull shit
 

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yea lol if anything that just FURTER reinfoces the fact that the pentagon wast hit by a plane, lol if they put that out to STOP the truth then they are retarded.

PS:why dont they releas the video from the hotel and gas station that taped the whole thing from actoss the street with a frame rate better then 5fps lol!

Its really sad how the government is trying to cover its tracs trully sad.............
 

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speedjunky01 said:
PS:why dont they releas the video from the hotel and gas station that taped the whole thing from actoss the street with a frame rate better then 5fps lol!

Its really sad how the government is trying to cover its tracs trully sad.............
you know why.
 

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my friend was telling me that he saw a similar prob the same video as this and it said that if the 747 had hit the pentagon it shouldve left an imprint(sp?) of the wings and the same info he gave me was the size of the hole on the pentagon. also he told me that when the plane had hit the world trade center it did make a hole and was billowing smoke and fire but did not fall down. in the video the person found out that there were small explosions throughout the building like small c4's were goin off nd then followed by the falling of the building.....now that makes u start wondering if this was all a grand scheme to start the war.
 

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All this is pretty convincing...but.

Noone will ever speak out, throw us hints, defect and tell the truth about whats going on, be on his/her death bed and spill thier guts to the world....why? thourout history and all of these supposed conspiries has this never happened, even once.....becuase there is no conspiriacy.


How many people would be in on some secret mission to destroy america from the inside out and had a change of heart would tell the would

It would happen if this stuff were going on, its human nature, always has and always will be, people switch sides. SO, agian why hasnt it happen yet?mmmmmm...there is no conspiray
 

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man I honestly dont view this as a conspiracy at all. I se it as questions that MANY people have asked and the govt refused to answer or said "national security" to it. From the data that I have read(both the 9/11 Official story and from the stuff I saw on fox(aka the Republican channel)) I can honestly say that yes the buldings were brought down by explosives.

Im not saying that yes 100% sure it was the gov't, but who gains the most from it is the way I looked at it. Bush gets to start a war which needs LOTS of guns he owns a National Defence company which makes guns and other vehicles. He benefits the MOST out out anyone on that day and that is a fact. he alsos had the "hook ups"

his brother was in charge of the security of the towers up until 911,MANY people said that there were emergency powerdowns and evacuations in weeks before 911. A fire chief of NYFD with 20+years of experience got up to the 78 floor and reported that the "inferno" could be put out with 2 hoses,this is from the tapes that were releases 1 YEAR after the attacks. If it was hot enough to melt steel which was certified for 2000*F and a duration of 2 hours for NO weakening(I can get the EXACT certification number if you want) and a fire fighter with 20+ years of experience said he could nock the inferno out with 2 hoses?

come on who you gona belive? guy who has survived 20+ years of infernos nd was THERE when the tower feel or someone who made billions of the disaster that happened that day?

I could go on with hundreds of points and unaswered questions and I would be happy to do so if you want :)



to answer you question, if that person "spiled their guts" imagine what the gov't could do to them,their family and anyone they want to with the "Patrio Act" they could detain and torture their kids,wives,mothers and faters at their whim and all they have to say is "they are terrorists" but in the patriot act the word "terrorist" is NEVER defined leaving them with open use of that label.
whould you say anything to ANYONE if you had a daughter? they just grab her in the night and off to Cuba where they can do whatever they want to her, mabby you get her finger in the mail as a sign of STFU if you do start to speak out?
 

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speedjunky01 said:
man I honestly dont view this as a conspiracy at all. I se it as questions that MANY people have asked and the govt refused to answer or said "national security" to it. From the data that I have read(both the 9/11 Official story and from the stuff I saw on fox(aka the Republican channel)) I can honestly say that yes the buldings were brought down by explosives.

Im not saying that yes 100% sure it was the gov't, but who gains the most from it is the way I looked at it. Bush gets to start a war which needs LOTS of guns he owns a National Defence company which makes guns and other vehicles. He benefits the MOST out out anyone on that day and that is a fact. he alsos had the "hook ups"

his brother was in charge of the security of the towers up until 911,MANY people said that there were emergency powerdowns and evacuations in weeks before 911. A fire chief of NYFD with 20+years of experience got up to the 78 floor and reported that the "inferno" could be put out with 2 hoses,this is from the tapes that were releases 1 YEAR after the attacks. If it was hot enough to melt steel which was certified for 2000*F and a duration of 2 hours for NO weakening(I can get the EXACT certification number if you want) and a fire fighter with 20+ years of experience said he could nock the inferno out with 2 hoses?

come on who you gona belive? guy who has survived 20+ years of infernos nd was THERE when the tower feel or someone who made billions of the disaster that happened that day?

I could go on with hundreds of points and unaswered questions and I would be happy to do so if you want :)



to answer you question, if that person "spiled their guts" imagine what the gov't could do to them,their family and anyone they want to with the "Patrio Act" they could detain and torture their kids,wives,mothers and faters at their whim and all they have to say is "they are terrorists" but in the patriot act the word "terrorist" is NEVER defined leaving them with open use of that label.
whould you say anything to ANYONE if you had a daughter? they just grab her in the night and off to Cuba where they can do whatever they want to her, mabby you get her finger in the mail as a sign of STFU if you do start to speak out?

Once the cat is out of the bag you cant put it back in....if there was a guy who went to the press and admited he helped put explosives in the buildings,ane he had hard proof and his family got killed, well then you have proof. His family woul be safe. You would have to get your info out all at once before they could silence you after they found out, but thats cake we got the internet now.Hell you could even do it semi annonmously

Bush doesnt own companies that make weapons, stocks, mabye. There are better ways to make money, ask john kerry, he is richer than bush will ever be and he (his wife) sells ketchup.

So if your intent is to make money and rule the world why do in such an obvious evil way. lol Why not do somthing that doesnt draw attention to yourself.


And the "inferno" put out with a hose....think about that for 4 seconds..a jet filled with fuel crashed...that all i need to say...its beyond common sense.
 

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i hate bush... so does my family... so does half the country. I herd last week that the bush administration has been detecting every single phone call we have made and how long it has last..... This is the land of the free.... were becomeing a worst country ever since bush has step into office.. thank god for his duty almost being over... heres a link to the hour long video of the 9/11 story.. I watched it and now i say f*** the government


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=Loose+Change+2nd+edition
 

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Im not here to sway politcal view,Its really retarted to say that one party is the one making all the war...they both are.

Do you know how many sercet spy programs we had during WW2? it was like 22.
All but 2 were dismantled after WW2 was over. CIA and NSA. The phone call spy is run by computers...it checks for a set of patterns that have been input. If it finds a match THEN, NSA can go for a warrent for a wire tape.
What makes you think that these wont be shut down after this terrorist stuff winds down?

Eveyone calm down and relize that these people have families, parents, and lives outside of politics..They have the best interest of thier own families first and ours second. They are not out to kill you.
 

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to the coment about the jet filled with fule. that red cloud was all of the kerosince burning off, also if you look at the buildings burning you see black smoke, that is a tall tale sign of lack of fuel for the fire.

also the "pancake" theory is 100% BS they didnt factor in the center columns of the building, they were designed SPECIFICLY to stop the "pancake" effect.

the center section was hermedicly sealed (aka little to NO air) it also had fire gates which close incase a fire does somehow burn in a place w/ low oxygen.

the official story is the fire traveled down these elevator shafts (which have VERY low oxygen) down 78 floors and fireexploded out with enough force to turn most of the lobby marble walls into fine powder and also travel down to the basement and cause an explosion(reported by a janator 7 levels down)

I agree on the not out to kil us statement and the their families first ours second. But the testimony of firefighters says it all

"and the glass started popoing, floor by floor, boom boom boom"

If you would like I have links to papers by physicists that prove thet the time the towers fell was WAY to fast to be just gravity fed(the pancake theory).took rougly 9.2 seconds to fall, in freefal w/ air resistance that is the tme it would take. but in the pancake theory they state that it feel floor by floor. wouldnt thousands of pounds of steel and concrete create ALOT more of the resistance then just air?

also view the videos in a high resolition and play them SUPER slow, you can see smoke puffs shooting out of the building about 20 floors ahead of the main cloud of debree.
 

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I'd say that's some pretty interesting evidence. How did everything get turned to powder and why did it fall straight down and not topple over?
 

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I'd say that's some pretty interesting evidence. How did everything get turned to powder and why did it fall straight down and not topple over?

exactly ,also if you ask how many sky scrapers feel, most people say 2, infact THREE fell. and the third one wasnt even hit by a plane and it colaped in an IDETICAL fasion compared to the other two towers.
 

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exactly ,also if you ask how many sky scrapers feel, most people say 2, infact THREE fell. and the third one wasnt even hit by a plane and it colaped in an IDETICAL fasion compared to the other two towers.
yea the owner said that his building was damaged and he told them to "pull it". that process takes 2 weeks to set up in the buildings. so how did he know that was going to happen. bombs were sent in all three building. the trade towers were made to withstand the planes and they did. plus you can see a big ball of fire shoot out when the plane hit that was all the air plane fuel burning off.
 

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One Theory:

Bush planned these attacks so he could start at war, rebuild america his own way and be the most powerful man in the world and make a hell of alot of $$.
 

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yea we'll my freind had a very good point he said that if this was all true they would prob not let it. this reason i think is good but i'd rather have the truth. he said that if the country found out it was true there would be chaos that the government did this and who knows what would happen but we need to find out the complete truth sooner then 50 years when bush is dead.
 
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