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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
ok guys, as far as oil goes, i dont burn too much. i may have to add a half quart between changes but thats not bad for an h22. when im just driving, there is no smoke. but when i floor it, there isnt smoke either...till i hit vtec. i never really noticed it till tonight. a buddy of mine was behind me one day and said my car smokes a bit. no big deal. i had some guy on my ass tonight with his highbeams on honking his horn and all. well...i was following some guy in front of me so there wasnt too much i could do. we had a doubble yellow so i couldnt pass, whatever. i passed anyway. i downshifted to third and gave a look behine me as vtec cracked and it looked like a really foggy night out from the smoke. i guess it looks worse at night with the lights then in the day. in the day, i can see it. its not blue so its not oil burning. its black. so seems like fuel. i have the normal bolt ons plus a p28 from phearable with a prelude basemap. could this be why its happening? i know these engines rin a tad rich from the factory, but shouldnt burn gas like that. do i just need a tune or what? i dont know what to do. thanks in advance guys.

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Your basemap sounds's definately running way rich...have it will only have benefits, and hp gains as a result. I don't recommend anyone run a non-h22 ecu with just a basemap for their car....$150 goes a LONG way....

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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
TheRedPill said:
Your basemap sounds's definately running way rich...have it will only have benefits, and hp gains as a result. I don't recommend anyone run a non-h22 ecu with just a basemap for their car....$150 goes a LONG way....
well, i ben rnuning it like this for a few months now, what kind of damage can occur? i cant find a dyno shop around me and id use my p13, but its fried. thats why i got the p28. i knew it would have to eventually be tuned...maybe i should temporarily buy a p13? i dunno. its not like swapping ecu,s is all that hard. took me like 20 minutes to get the old one out and the new one in and everything back together.

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The only really negative side effect of running too rich is long term carbon build up, and a poor fuel economy....not too worry....go find a tuner with a dyno....

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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
TheRedPill said:
The only really negative side effect of running too rich is long term carbon build up, and a poor fuel economy....not too worry....go find a tuner with a dyno....
thanks man, that makes me feel better. ill keep tryin to find a dyno shop.

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Mine does it with the stock ECU... how can I get it tuned to reduce the fuel consumption. I know I'd have to bring it to be dyno tuned, but what do I need as far as my ECU is concerned? I know that virtually all Preludes run VERY rich from the factory...

Oh and sorry to hijack... lol :arr :ahoy


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alteast get it street tuned. You dont have to have a dyno to tune the car.

u live in friggin Jersey. There are tuners all over the place around those states.

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i'm gona give you a list to help you and others

Professional Engine Service 713-B Holcombe Ave Mobile, AL 334-476-4445
Walker Dynotune <> 3250 Morrow Road Birmingham, AL (205) 661-6986
Professional Engine Service 713-B Holcombe Ave Mobile, AL 334-476-4445
Walker Dynotune <> 3250 Morrow Road Birmingham, AL (205) 661-6986
Hale's Technical Service <> 3207 Denali Street Anchorage, AK (907) 277-4253
B & B Fabrication 23045 N. 15th Ave. Phoenix, AZ 602-581-7600
Pro Dyno 1721 W. 10th Pl Suite 4 Tempe, AZ 602-967-5550
Technodyne 717 South Hacienda Drive Suite 101 Tempe, AZ 602-804-9700
UTI 10851 N. Blackcanyon Hwy Suite 600 Phoenix, AZ 602-271-4174
Reid's Autoworks, Inc. #2 Deoray Road Arkadelphia, AR 870-246-7855
Street & Performance Electronics Inc 304 Smokey Ln N. Little Rock, AR 501-945-0354
A & L Racing 500 Fair Oaks Ave. Arroyo Grande, CA 805-473-8505
BBK 1611 Railroad St. Corona, CA 909-735-2400
Borla Exhausts 5901 Edison Ave. Oxnard, CA 805-986-8600
Chassis Dyno 8044 Keesee Way Citrus Heights, CA 800-995-3966
Conversion Techniques 9845 Bigge St. Oakland, CA 510-654-9292
Dan's Performance Center 11960 Hesperia Road Hesperia, CA
Dose Inc 215 F Denny Way El Cajon, CA 619-449-3835
DPR Racing Development 22633 S. Normandie ave Torrance, CA 310-328-9488
Dynamic Autosports 51 Auto Center Dr. #4 Irvine, CA 714-457-1234
Dyno Shop 10042 Prospect Ave Santee, CA 619-562-3933
Feuling R & D Inc. 2521 Palma Ave. Ventura, CA 805-650-2598
G-F Automotive 210 Ryan Way S. San Francisco, CA 415-952-8440
GodSpeed Dyno Works <> 612 South Tremont Street Oceanside, CA (760) 433-0086
Group A Autosports 25710 Industrial Blvd. Unit #2 Hayward, CA 510-781-0538
H K S 2801 E. 208 St. Carson, CA 310-763-9600
Holland Communications 21125 Superior Street Chatsworth, CA 818-341-4777
Jackson Racing 7281 Westminster Westminster, CA 714-891-1113
JG Engine Dynamics 431 South Raymond Ave. Unit 2 Alhambra, CA 626-281-5326
K & N Engineering 561 Iowa Avenue Bldg. F Riverside, CA 909-684-0716
Kenne Bell 10743 Bell Court Ranch Cucamonga, CA 909-941-0985
KPI High Performance 916 East Acequia Street Visalia, CA
Mechtech Motorsports 1277 Simpson Way Escondito, CA 760-432-0555
Modern Speed 9822 Alpaca South El Monte, CA 626-448-3087
Morgan Motorsports, Inc. 11232 Vanowen St. Suite 4 North Hollywood, CA 818-766-3051
Performance Gallery 9220 Dowdy Dr. Ste F San Diego, CA 619-639-3278
Powertrain Dynamics 15628 Graham St. Huntington Beach, CA 714-373-0068
R&DZ 115 E. Gardena Blvd Unit 1 Gardena, CA 310-516-1003
RPM Engines & Machine 560 Martin Ave. Rohnert Park, CA 707-584-8230
Sho Shop <> 15608 Graham St. Huntington Beach, CA 714-894-8415
Steve Millen/Stillen 3176 Airway Costa Mesa, CA 714-540-5566
Superior Automotive 2675 W. Woodland Dr. Anahiem, CA 714-894-9711
Superior Dyno Service 1740 Enterprise Dr. # 12 Fairfield, CA 707-425-3966
The Dyno Room @ the Mustang Ranch 1375 El Camino Real Santa Clara, CA 408-247-9005
UTI Rancho Cucamonga 11530 6th Street Rancho Cucamonga, CA 909-484-1929
Wessloh Honda 32881 Camino Capistrano San Juan Capistrano, CA 949-493-9300
Whipple Industries 3292 1/2 North Weber Fresno, CA 559-442-1261
Action Dyno 1921 W. Yale Unit B Inglewood, CO 303-953-2003
Dealer Alternative 331 South 13th Street Grand Junction, CO 970-242-3800
Dyno-Pro, Inc. 5330 Tennyson St. Denver, CO 303-455-2443
The Carburetor Shop Inc. <> 2101 W. Cornell Ave. Englewood, CO (303) 781-1118
Action Engine Machine 61 McKinley Ave. Bridgeport, CT 203-367-6056
Danielson Ford Rt. 6 Brooklyn, CT 860-774-8577
Dyno Time Performance <> 103 Union City Road Prospect, CT (203) 758-3225
J & M Corvettes 299 Broad St. Manchester, CT 860-645-6389
Proven Performance 306 R Boston Post Road Milford, CT 203-874-0393
European Racing Tech. 12 Hadco Rd. Wilmington, DE 302-633-1157
Brett's Vettes 10791 NW 53rd St. Sunrise, FL 954-749-2836
Dyno Performance Engineering 9205 S.W. Kansas Ave. Stuart, FL 561-283-3482
Dynotek 7380 N.W. 54th St. Miami, FL 305-884-4111
Lethal Injection Racing 1736 Unice Ave. Lehigh, FL 941-694-0925
Massari - Muller Racing 1984 Sherwood St. Clearwater, FL 813-282-3255
Perf. Dynamometer Svcs. 2427 Guava Dr. Edgewater, FL 904-427-0390
Pro Source Performance 5525 N.W. 84th Ave. Miami, FL 305-591-7788
Rare Auto Design 2220 N. Orange Ave. Orlando, FL (407) 493-4263
Renntech 1369 North Killian Dr. Lake Park, FL 561-845-7888
Rieth Motorsports 617 Industrial Ave. Boynton Beach, FL 561-369-1711
South Florida Performance 10718 SW 188th St. Miami, FL 305-233-8520
Spec R Tuning 14513 N. Nebraska Ave. Tampa, FL 813-910-7235
Steeda 1351 NW Steeda Way Pompano Beach, FL 954-960-0732
Street Rods & Classics 1552 NW First Ave. Boca Raton, FL 561-394-4359
The Dyno Shop, Inc. 17305 Pine Ridge Rd. #10 Ft. Myers Beach, FL 941-437-1420
Tune Tech Auto Diagnostics 39082 US Hwy 19 North Tarpon Springs, FL 727-939-8467
Unlimited Performance 145B S. Congress Ave. Del Ray Beach, FL 561-279-0179
Vinci High Performance 3915 El Rey Rd. Orlando, FL 407-292-4500
Wright Touch Automotive 5780 SW 25th St. Bay #3 Hollywood, FL http://www.wrig
Atlanta Chassis Dyno 1855 Buford Highway Duluth, GA 770-623-9789
Dynolab Inc. 1535D Rosewood Circle Marietta, GA (678) 560-0692
Engineered Performance 1784 Corn Rd. Suite D Smyrna, GA 770-434-0051
Star Dyno 6850 Buford Hwy Doraville, GA 770-416-9691
BSM Performance 2022 Republican Street Honolulu, HI (808) 841-DYNO
Dyno-Jet Hawaii 41 Hoolai St. Kailua, HI (808) 927-5471
Performance Engineering 890 Alua St. Ste. 4 Wailuku, Maui, HI 808-242-8358
Precision Motor Rebuilders 41 Hoolai St. Kailua, Oahu, HI 808-261-0883
Dr. Performance 11225 S. Carlin Bay Rd. Harrison, ID 208-644-3945
The Dyno Source 5730 Overland Road Boise, ID 208-672-8800
Auto Specialty Of Lafayette Inc. 313 Teal Rd. Lafayette, IN (765) 477-7300
I Quest Racing & Car Collect 2035 E. 46th St. Indianapolis, IN 317-259-5050
Kenny Brown Performance 57D Gasoline Alley Indianapolis, IN 317-247-5320
Lingenfelter Perf. Engrg. 1557 Winchester Rd. Decatur, IN 219-728-2649
Performance Race Car Products 109 College st. Bainbridge, IN 765-522-0417
Stepro's Garage 1185 Hwy. 62 N.W. Corydon, IN (812) 738-1058
Peterson Enterprises 104 South 3rd Ave. Eldridge, IA 319-285-7723
Premier Racing Products 1100 Industrial Avenue Hiawatha, IA 319-294-1211
Holley Performance Products 1801 Russellville Road Bowling Green, KY 502-745-9569
The Dyno Shop 7801 Carol Ave. Lousville, KY 502-964-2165
B & M Race Cars 3856 Industrial Circle Bossier City, LA 318-742-3023
Thunder Racing 6960 North Merchant Ct. Baton Rouge, LA 225-754-7223
CM Performance 62 Mussey Road Scarborough, ME (207) 329-2588
Auto Motion, Inc. 5410 Randolph Rd Rockville, MD 301-770-4880
European Import Performance 1203 Baltimore Blvd. Westminster, MD 410-871-0406
Extreme Motorsports, Inc. 10621-I Iron Bridge Rd. Jessup, MD 301-776-2903
Jeff's Muffler and Peformance 1595 Skinners Turn Rd. Owings, MD 301-855-0162
A.C.S. Racing 74 Industrial Way Hanover, MA 781-982-9434
Cape Cod Dyno & Performance 350 Route 130 Box 5 Barnstead Industrial Park Sandwich, MA 508-833-6430
New England Dyno and Tuning 7 Lenora Street Worcester, MA (508) 752-5557

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A & A Machine 6006 N State Davison, MI 810-653-1891
Baker Engineering 17165 Baker Blvd. Nunica, MI 616-837-8975
Jacob Industries 33638 Doreka Fraser, MI 810-296-3334
M66 Dyno Lab 9731 North M66 Six Lakes, MI 517-365-3161
Paul's High Performance Inc. 3715 Commerce Jackson, MI 517-764-7661
PowerCurve 36760 Metro Ct. Sterling Heights, MI 810-795-4600
Visteon Automotive Systems East Dock s/ 39000 Mound Rd. Sterling Heights, MI 810-826-5383
Waroom 5440 Dixie Hwy. Waterford, MI (248) 623-6900
White Racing and Marine 12820 Nine Mile Warren, MI 810-756-3026
Doug Rippie Motorsports 5767 Highway 55 SE Buffalo, MN 612-477-9272
Gueningsman Automotive 2503 225th Street Winstead, MN 320-485-3994
S & S Performance Inc. 5141 Lakeland Ave. North Crystal, MN 612-536-9430
Tim's Big A Auto Parts 321 W. Rock St. Springfield, MN 507-723-6571
Auto-Pro 611 East 24 Highway Independence, MS 816-252-0156
Stiegemier Engine Air Flow 2140 Old Hwy 94 S. St. Charles, MS 314-949-2275
G & C Sales & Service 538 Lincoln Lane PO Box 35500-218 59107 Billings, MT 406-252-1240
E.J.'s Dyno Shop 13326 B Street Omaha, NE (402) 691-8651
Racers Edge 3900 Spring Mt. Ste a-5 Las Vegas, NV 702-257-3808
Silver State Motorsports 3060 N. Nellis Blvd. Unit 1 Las Vegas, NV 702-644-8756
New Jersey
Carpenter Race Engines 177A Berlin Crosskeys Rd. Berlin, NJ 609-753-1555
Cartek 63 South Avenue Garwood, NJ (908) 654-9993
Crazy Horse Racing 100 Main St Suite E South Amboy, NJ (732) 553-9050
IDA Automotive Inc. #2 Route 9 North Morganville, NJ 732-591-2630
LaRocca Performance 29 Shoshone St. Old Bridge, NJ 732-723-1111
Pat Musi Racing 377 Roosevelt Ave. Carteret, NJ 732-541-1919
Power Trip Performance 276 RT. 513 Glen Gardner, NJ 908-638-1194
Precision Racing Corp. 660 Bergen Blvd. Ridgefield, NJ 201-941-3677
Rally Motosport, Inc. 249 Lodi St. Hackensack, NJ 201-342-8374
New Mexico
Chamisa Auto 1901 Chamisa St. Santa Fe, NM 505-989-8384
New York
Dyno Sport Performance 1011 Lakeville Road New Hyde Park, NY (631) 775-1840
Kennedy's Dynotune 3165 Niagara Falls Blvd. North Tonawanda, NY (716) 693-5354
Lizzard Racing 20 Eads St. West Babylon, NY (631) 420-1476
Mustang Magic 160 Brook Ave. Deer Park, NY (631) 254-3430
P & J Speed Shop 195 Main St. North Tonawanda, NY 716-694-6363
Rampage Racing Ltd 70-33 Queens Blvd Woodside Queens, NY 718-396-1300
Romar Enterprises, Inc. P.O. Box 707 630 Rte 52 Walden, NY 914-778-2737
Spina's Engine Shop 3270 Ridge Rd. Ransomville, NY 716-791-4640
Vette Doctors 16 Elm Place Amityville, NY (631) 841-0779
World Auto 509J N. Bicycle Path Port Jefferson, NY (631) 473-0055
North Carolina
Gene Lummas Harley Davidson 1000 U.S. Route 70 Swannanoa, NC 828-299-1685
Innovative Motorsports 5254 Pit Road South Harris, NC 704-455-1447
Lee's Performance Center 8424 Old Statesville Rd. Charlotte, NC 704-599-1507
PPI 3051 1st Avenue Court st. Hickory, NC 828-267-0250
Precision Engine 503 1/2 Woodlawn Ave. N. Belmont, NC 704-827-0032
Turbo Tune, US, LTD 941 South Chapman Street Greensboro, NC 336-378-1252
Ware Racing - BRP 15A Hightech Blvd. Thomasville, NC 336-476-4448
North Dakota
Performance Auto 1917 Main Ave. Fargo, ND 701-237-4641
Buschur Racing 24 West Main Street Wakeman, OH 440-839-1900
Dynotec Motorsports Mobile Chassis Dynamometer 1477 East 361st Street East Lake, OH 440-942-3349
Dynotech Performance Systems 575 D Golden Oak Pkwy Oakwood Village, OH 440-735-0119
Mustang Dynamometer 2300 Pinnacle Parkway Twinsburg, OH (330) 963-5400
Norris Racing Technologies 200 Stanford Pkwy Findlay, OH 419-427-3330
Passen Motorsports 3419 E. Dublin Grandville Rd Westerville, OH 800-441-8913
Paul's Automotive Engineering 9750 Conklin Rd. Cincinnati, OH 513-791-1087
Supertrapp and Kerker Performance Exhausts 4540 West 160th St. Cleveland, OH 216-265-8400
Dunsworth Machine 701 North Independence Enid, OK 580-233-5812
Ed Wright Automotive 1114 W. 41st Street Tulsa, OK 918-446-3019
Dunsworth Machine 701 North Independence Enid, OK 580-233-5812
Ed Wright Automotive 1114 W. 41st Street Tulsa, OK 918-446-3019
Auto Service & Performance by Ed - Home of ASAP Mustangs 4768 William Flynn Highway Allison Park, PA (412) 492-7454
Performance Specialties, Inc. 323 High Street Pottstown, PA 610-326-7000
Second Street Speed 109 S. Second St. Perkasie, PA 215-257-3724
South Carolina
ATS Performance 6001 Two Notch Rd. Columbia, SC (803)786-7766
Power Zone Performance 5638 Craig Rd. Charleston, SC 843-744-1200
AUTO-DYNO 10402 Lexington Drive Knoxville, TN 865-777-DYNO
Competition Cams 3406 Democrat Rd. Memphis, TN 901-795-2400
Dave's Honda Haven 4664 Lamar Memphis, TN 901-368-4004
Hypertech 3215 Appling Rd. Bartlett, TN 901-382-8888
Performance Garage 504 6th Avenue South Nashville, TN
Alamo Autosports 1218 Colorado Ln. #C3 Arlington, TX 817-860-4300
Auto Tech 4313 Gillis Austin, TX 512-326-3881
Chassis Dyno Service 8930 Agnes (hwy. 44 @ so. clarkwwod) Corpus Christi, TX (361) 265-1155
Classic Jaguar 9916 Highway 290 West Austin, TX 512-288-8800
Colvin Automotive 2715 Hancock Dr. Austin, TX 512-452-4236
Hennessey Motorsports 18000 Groeschke Rd. Hanger C-1 Houston, TX 281-579-2223
Hocus Pocus 11698 Bellaire Houston, TX 281-530-2206
Intercrew Auto Salon 717 S. Sherman St. Richardson, TX 214-575-6288
Jay's Fast Oil/Dyno Hoss 1634 50th St. Lubbock, TX 806-747-9352
L.G. Motorsports 4314 Action St. Garland, TX 972-272-7753
Motorsport Technologies 12500 Oxford Park Dr. Houston, TX 281-870-8787
Precision Mustangs of San Antonio 951 East Bitters Rd. Ste. 423 San Antonio, TX 210-499-4083
Rotery Performance 311 E. Buckingham Rd. Garland, TX 972-530-3335
South Texas Dyno Performance 5820 N. Cage Unit #17 Pharr, TX (956) 782-9294
Texas Performance Dyno 951 E. Bitters Rd. #523 San Antonio, TX 210-494-DYNO(39
TNT Motorsports 1608 W. 22nd St. Houston, TX 713-880-0279
UTI 721 Lockhaven Drive Houston, TX 281-443-6262
Xtreme Motorsports & Dyno Tune 3201 East Pioneer Pkwy Suite 25 & 26 Arlington, TX 817-858-8548
Racers Edge 955 N. 1300 W. #1 St. George, UT 801-674-7788
The Dyno Shop at Balluzzo Engineering 2808 Build America Dr. Hampton, VA (757) 838-6721
Townsend Racing Products 11080 Air Park Road Ashland, VA (804) 798-8340
Inline PRO 17958-B Cameron Brown CourtSpringfield, VA 703-644-1788
Austin Pro/Max 5602 S. Tocoma Way Tacoma, WA 800-877-9472
Autometrics 813 N. Front St. Yakima, WA (509) 457-3739
Carburetor Connection 13611 N.E. 126th Place Kirkland, WA 425-820-1871
Tom's Perf. Machine 6707 NE 117th Ave. #C101 Vancouver, WA 360-256-1722
Turbo Technology 6211 South Adams Tacoma, WA 253-475-8319
Borchardt Speed & Automotive 6101 South 27th St. Greenfield, WI 414-282-2390
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