I have a 93 civic sedan....I just wanted to know which stabilizing bar would be more effective (i.e. front and/or rear strut tower bar, front and/or rear lower tie bar, anit-sway bars, etc.) What combination of bars would be best? Thanks!
Most effective "bar"?
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OK, i dont have an answer to your question, but you wouldnt happen to have some pics of ur ride would ya? What all have you done to it? Just askin cuz i got a sedan too
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The sway bars BY FAR will make the most difference in cornering & handling. Unless you drive very hard very often and on real curvy roads where you turn right-left-right quickly you won't even hardly notice the chassis braces. They are good to have but always do springs/shocks/swaybars first then the other stuff later.
hands down after lowering with a spring strut combo, and nice grippy compound tires
anti sways are a must on the handeling upgrades, strut bars seem to be oh so popular
because they give you that Race look but don't help out nearly as much as anti sways do
anti sways are a must on the handeling upgrades, strut bars seem to be oh so popular
because they give you that Race look
but don't help out nearly as much as anti sways do
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Yeah and because they are cheaper and much easier to install than sway bars too. But it's effort that yields results. Plus I think most people don't even know quite what a strut tower brace really even does, they just see it for sale and think they need one of those and they'll handle good.trentdx said:
As trent states, tires tires tires!!! These are at least equal to springs and sway bars on the handling priority list. I always thought "Why are these 'Brand X' tires so much more than 'Brand Z' tires?" Then I decided to buy a set of good low-treadwear high-grip tires and I realized why. My Escort GT with near-race compound tires outhandled my lowered, swaybar-equipped Civic hatch with Nitto 450s easily.
thanks for the responses....so, if i do go with the anti-sway bars, what brand? I'm sure they all function the same way, but is there one in particular that seems to work better? As for the tires....I'm also running on Nitto 450's and I love cornering.
civicchik....I'll try to get pics up ASAP.
Thanks again!
civicchik....I'll try to get pics up ASAP.
Thanks again!
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Well, they aren't the "best" necessarily, but for price there's no comparison to the Suspension Techniques kit, especially on a car like yours with no bars in front or back. You can get a complete front/rear kit with all hardware for about $250 or so shipped from Summit Racing. There's good stuff from Eibach adn Neuspeed but they cost over $300+ just for the rear, and they only make front kits for cars that already have factory bars.
Installation can be a chore but it's not too bad. Just make sure not to break your control arm bolts like I did! But it makes a huge difference, gets rid of most of the body roll, keeps you flatter in the corners, helps reduce some of the understeer.
Installation can be a chore but it's not too bad. Just make sure not to break your control arm bolts like I did!
But it makes a huge difference, gets rid of most of the body roll, keeps you flatter in the corners, helps reduce some of the understeer.that's easy, Supension Techniques best bang for the buck anti sway bar, also they have a
varity of kits from everything from cx-si (cx-dx kit is diffrent because they don't come equipt with front anti sway from factory)
best price i've seen them is at summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?d=4&s=9&p=2708&part=15406&v=STQ
varity of kits from everything from cx-si (cx-dx kit is diffrent because they don't come equipt with front anti sway from factory)
best price i've seen them is at summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?d=4&s=9&p=2708&part=15406&v=STQ
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Adjusting the bars like the Eibach is pretty easy, the links are rod-ends instead of bushings and there are a set of holes drilled along the end of the bar that you can move the link from one to the other changing the way the bar reacts. But unless you auto-X a lot and need to change it for more oversteer it's pretty expensive to get one just to say you have it.
Anyways, I got rod-ends to fabricate my own endlinks (still haven't done it yet though...) 4 of them for my front bar for only $25 from Summit, so if you have a little ingenuity and are willing to do some work you can still get a setup like Eibachs or Neuspeeds for way less money. Whenever I get around to it (hopefully before winter...) I'll take pics and post them up to show how I did it.
Anyways, I got rod-ends to fabricate my own endlinks (still haven't done it yet though...) 4 of them for my front bar for only $25 from Summit, so if you have a little ingenuity and are willing to do some work you can still get a setup like Eibachs or Neuspeeds for way less money. Whenever I get around to it (hopefully before winter...) I'll take pics and post them up to show how I did it.
I agree with the sway bars, but I myself went and purchased REAL CTR front sway bar, and rear chasis bar, which is different than rear sway bar. It mounts inside the trunk, but not at the point of shocks, it's actually mounted to the rear chasis frame. I also still felt some body flex in the car and decided to try one of those floorbars for behind the drivers/passenger seats. That there made an impressive difference. I wanted to test it without the CTR bars and I was really impressed by what that one bar did. They have them on ebay real cheap.
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Actuailly you can build your own bard for a lot cheaper than what you can buy them for. The rear top, and bottom ones are so easy to build, its not even foney.
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for the top rear i just used steel tubing, and drilled holes in the ends. I attached them to the to the bolts in the trunk that are beside the strut bolt. I did one for each bolt. For the rear bottom, i did the same thing, and connected thecontrol arm mounting blots. If you triangulate them with another body panel, they will work alot better.
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Mine are 1/2 inch diamiter, and it was the stuff that home depot had.I haven't a clue on what kind of steel it was. It was cheap, and I was bored, and it worked out better than I thought it would.
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