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I was talking to this guy about his car today and we wen tfor a ride. It was a 95 hatch i think and had a b16a swap. Now all he had done to it was put headers on it and a uni muffler. That thing pulled pretty hard. He told me that the header boosted it up like 20 ponies!!!! But it cost him like $2500 Can. Now is thsi guy full os crap or is this header add that much???
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yeah ... it COULD be that much .... depending on where he got it.

it's about $800 USD listed at Kings. So do the conversion with a conservative 1.6 .... and that's already $1300. Add the brokerage which usually comes out to around 20% ... and that's around $1560, then you have our good ol Canadian taxes .. and if you're in Ontario that means another 15% ... so that brings the total close to $1800. Then you still have shipping... a good 50-80 bucks depending on method and provider ..... that's already close to $1900 ..... and then there's the retailer's mark up (trust me, there isn't much money to be made for dealers who want to make $$ off the Mugen dealer price .....)

As for it making 20 ponies ..... only dyno can prove that.

But! In the great header comparrison done with a Type R, they tested various headers .... Mugen, Toda, Jun, Spoon, JDM 4-1, DC JDM 4-1, Type One, and I'm not 100% sure if they used the Hytech headers or not. (not sure if Maxim Works was used either)

From what I remember (not including the Hytech), Spoon out performed most of them ..... Type One finished a close second. However, one thing shown was that the JDM 4-1, and DC JDM 4-1 wasn't far behind the "big" name companies ..... 2-4 whp max difference ......

Type One is kinda new on the scene .... from what I know, they are the "plant/factory" involved with making the headers for Spoon and Toda. They, just like Maxim Works did with Mugen, made their own header through the knowledge gained from making headers for the bigger Japanese companies ..... and surprisingly it did very well. However, don't be fooled with the b16 version of the header .... unlike the JDM ITR application which comes with the standard JDM 2.5 collector ... botht the Maxim Works and Type One application for b16's are 2.25 collectors. Unfortunately, I don't have any info on its performance #'s.

IMO ... if you're really willing to spend close to $2000 on a header .... call Endyn ... or call SMSP (Dave) and get them to make you a custom header for your set up ...... well worth the money .... and Dave's a nice guy (he's down in Charlotte ....)
for those of you who know of these guys, you know about their products.... top notch!
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totally agreed that the Hytech and SMSP headers are for the more hardcore performance guys ..... but ultimately ... when you wanna say best ..... these two may be it .....

As for affordability .... JDM 4-1 is without a doubt one of the best bang for your buck choices ......

As for DC ... just for my cars, I wouldn't ever touch it ..... and I'll leave it at that.

But seriously, look into the Type One header ...... its only slightly more expensive than the JDM 4-1 .... and its numbers are definately better ...... in my book, the JDM 4-1 WAS the best bang for the buck .... and right now the Type One header (b18 header ... ) is my choice for best bang for your buck ....
IMO, no such thing.

Really depends what you want to do with your car.

If the b18 Type One header does in fact perform like it did in the great header comparrison ..... I'd pick that. (However, I've seen the quality ... and for me, I'd still pay the extra for the Spoon :D)
HCSiR said:
IMO, no such thing.

Really depends what you want to do with your car.

If the b18 Type One header does in fact perform like it did in the great header comparrison ..... I'd pick that. (However, I've seen the quality ... and for me, I'd still pay the extra for the Spoon :D)
well actually ... I did :D
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