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hey guys im a dirt track racer from central illinois. im looking to switch cars from ford/mazda to a honda. im here to get some tips and tricks
 

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to circle track with?

Where from in the land of Lincoln?
 

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yes, 3/8 mile high bank dirt oval. i have raced for 4 years now. but i have been running 91-96 escort gt with the mazda 1.8 bp. i can still run towards the front but the new cavaliers with ecotecs are starting to walk away. there is only one honda at my track. and he sucks. i would like to put something together that will compete with an ecotec and not be just like everyone else
 

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rules.... 4cyl, fwd, no turbo, no nos, no welded diffs. car must appear to be stock. motor swaps are allowed. trans swaps too. the key points are.....i want lightwieght, good hp and torque, and near bullet proof .cant afford to be swapping motors every weekend. and i need to be able to find these components at a junk yard. budget around 3k
 

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is there anyway an admin could move my post into a popular section. id like to get all you honda freaks input on this one. i could do it like my last car. it was sponsored by a mazda forum. and i put their addy on the car.
 

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rules.... 4cyl, fwd, no turbo, no nos, no welded diffs. car must appear to be stock. motor swaps are allowed. trans swaps too. the key points are.....i want lightwieght, good hp and torque, and near bullet proof .cant afford to be swapping motors every weekend. and i need to be able to find these components at a junk yard. budget around 3k
Well you'll get reliable and bullet proof, but most honda motors aren't power houses.

I guess your best bet would be to get an EF or a CRX Si gut it, and run that. D series motors are EXTREMELY reliable, but your looking at only 110hp on a good day. However, you will have a car that weighs a little over a ton. Might work for you? Otherwise, try to find an integra, then you get the DOHC B series in it, costs more, but you could do it. Base tegs have 140hp, if you get fancy, and find a GSR and strip it down your have 170hp, and a nice race friendly powerband.
 

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my goal is to have more than my egt. it was 2300lbs and about 135-150 hp.

ecotecs are around 160-180 i think. they are the cars im trying to smoke
 

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an easy engine swap into something light would work if you guys could think of a good one. and do i want a vtec? 1.6? im not sure what all engines you guess drool over haha.
 

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an easy engine swap into something light would work if you guys could think of a good one. and do i want a vtec? 1.6? im not sure what all engines you guess drool over haha.
oh shit, I didn't think you could swap.

Well then get a CRX and put a B18 in it. B18's are DOHC motors that come out of integras. Base models without VTEC run 140hp or so, and a b18c1 (VTEC) is gonna be 170hp. The b18c1 can be a little more pricey tho, your usually looking at about a grand for that motor alone. If you want the y80 trans that goes with it, another 500? this is a guesstamate, because some people can get it for less or more, depending on area, or what e-bay has, lol.

If your on a budget, which you are, find a CRX for a grand or so, ditch the motor and trans that are in it, get a B18b with a y80 (gsr) transmission and run that. About the best you can do in that price range.
 

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i found this close to my area. good deal? what i need?

F22B1 Honda/Acura 2.2L Vtec & Transmission 800 bucks
 

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f22 is a SOHC I believe, better torque, but not as much top end.

an F series is an Accord motor too, you'd have to do more work to get it to work in a civic style chassis.

I say the CRX because its light, and really nimble with its short wheelbase. I had a CRX HF, and gutted it weighed a little under a ton. Put 150hp in something like that and you could get around the track pretty well.
 

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speak english to me fellas im new to the honda thing lol. where are all these engines coming from? h2 f2 ? r2d2. haha. and i got the info on the crx. what do you think about a del sol? i kinda figured they would be the absolute lightest.
 

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they are talking about the engine codes.

Honda’s engine codes are typically four or five characters in length. Japanese market (JDM) motor ID codes are always four characters long, while US spec (USDM) or other export motor codes usually contain five characters.

The first character of a typical Honda engine code is usually a letter, which denotes the series of the engine. The next two characters are typically numbers, which denote the motor’s displacement in liters. The fourth character is typically a letter, which denotes the particular model of the engine within the engine series.

Take for example the B18C, a very popular tuner engine originally found in the 1994-2001 Integra. The “B” indicates that the motor is a member of the B-Series engine family, the “18” indicates that the motor displaces 1.8 liters, and the “C” indicates the motor’s specific model within the 1.8 liter B-Series engine group (as opposed to a B18A or B18B). Another example would be the H22A motor found in Preludes and some Japanese Accords. In this case, the engine is part of the H-Series, displaces 2.2 liters, and is the “A” model within the H-Series family of engines.

As mentioned earlier, non-Japanese (USDM, UK, etc.) Honda engine codes will often contain a fifth character. A USDM B16 engine code might read “B16A2” for example, as opposed to the “B16A” stamp on a JDM motor. The meanings of these numbers are not specifically clear; most likely they are simply used to differentiate variants of the same motor sold in different regional markets.
When i did grass tracking we used long blocks every time, IMO The torque is the key, You don't wanna be 7000rpm for 10 laps straight dialing up and down the gears to keep the power down+ The other reason we used long block engines it to get good traction weight over the front Axel. We used Volvo 340+440's which were 2liter long block SOHV so if some one can point you in the direction of a long block high torque CHEAP Honda engine in a light chassis id' say winning combination.

I'd say steer clear of D+B series, too small unless you have a certain CC/CI limit.
And thats my Honda knowledge extinguished :lmao

**This is all IMO**
 

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good info thanks a bunch.as far as gearing... ill want something that i can use second gear only. i may have to adjust tire size to dial it in just right. in my egt with a bp05 dohc 1.8 i could use second gear. 4500 coming off the turn,and hitting 7400 going in. it was geared just right to allow the engine to help brake the car going in and still be peppy coming off. what vehicles are these highly sought motors in? maybe i can find a diamond in the rough
 
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