Phat, seems to be having a hard time seeing anything. Maybe we should give him a 'newbie' pic.sweet said:aaaawww but i like candy apple red stuff!
naw just kiddin BDC, i see and understand.
You need medication, not science! Look, Phat, you've added nothing to this discussion except repeated 'ad hominem' attacks. You've tried to get it closed two or three times. And, you're still in here reading and posting away. Does that make sense?Phatcivic said:...and oh i am not a retard, cuz science is always being tested...
Why don't you just stifle yourself and quit acting like a 2 year-old? Otherwise, we'll set you in the corner with a dunce cap...SOURCE: Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: re·tard
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Latin; Middle French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
Date: 15th century
1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : IMPEDE
synonym see DELAY
Main Entry: re·tard·ed
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
Carbon fiber is synthesized. It's a synthetic material. It doesn't exist in nature. It's man-made. If they didn't know "what it is made of", how would they have made it in the first place?Phatcivic said:...taking CF and seeing exactly what it is made of is science...
One word AMEN....Biff said:This is easily the dumbest thread ever created. "Well you like plastic hoods, so you should like plastic intakes." What kinda irrelevant bullshit statement is that? Two COMPLETELY different products, serving two COMPLETELY different purposes. The only reason BDC keeps trying to compare the two, and stir up a pointless argument is to further his crusade for the Iceman.
As for those pics he posted, SO FUCKING WHAT? It has a dinky plastic tube leading to the turbo, but the rest of the tubing is metallic. Yet more pointless drivel from BDC, solely trying to mislead the ignorant ones.
Oh ya, cold air intakes on turbos will still do absolutely dick. Do you supporters have ANY IDEA how hot a turbo runs? You think a measly what, few degrees of cooler intake temp is gonna make dick all of a difference to a fucking bloody hot turbo?
Where's the BDC fucker to prove this wrong?
A: doesn't even have a turbo (relies on shit posted on the internet for everything)
B: probably doesn't even have a CAI
C: needs to stop sucking Knight Engineering's dick
D: only stirs shit up to further his own satisfaction of "being right"
Those are good points, Biff!Biff said:The only reason BDC keeps trying to compare the two, and stir up a pointless argument is to further his crusade for the Iceman...
BDC... doesn't even have a turbo...
...cold air intakes on turbos will still do absolutely dick. Do you supporters have ANY IDEA how hot a turbo runs?
Yeah, I see it now, black, segmented hose.BlackDeuceCoupe said:Now, go back and look at the first picture again. Do you see the CAI this time? If not, keep looking. You'll find it.
Oops! Define "large enough". Think 'WWII fighter' before answering
There you are, further making an ass of yourself. You made an assumption. And as we all know, you should never make assumptions. Please, if you will, show me exactly where I said I have a turbo. I myself do not have turbo, but I have two friends who have turbo motors (Integra LS, Civic Si). Since I can't exactly post "proof" as you say (what? take a thermometer to a turbo?), I can only say from firsthand experience that turbos run ridiculously hot (old news). Hell, people use turbo timers to help with cool-down. The thing is exhaust driven for Christ's sake.BlackDeuceCoupe said:Those are good points, Biff!
It's true I don't have a turbo on my HX. But, that doesn't make me blind to the FACT that you CAN put a CAI on a turbo. The pictures were presented as PROOF of that FACT.
As far as PROOF and FACTS are concerned, you have claimed, several times, that they will "do absolutely dick" for turboed engines. Declarative statements are worthless unless they can be verified. That's why I always post graphs, charts, pix, links, sources and so forth. Would you mind showing us YOUR PROOF that CAI's won't do dick for turbo's???
Rhetorical questions are NOT proof. They are dishonest debating tactics, like "Eat your spinach - Do you know how many kids are starving in China?"
You asked if we knew "how hot a turbo runs." Most ppl don't. How about giving them the answer? Do YOU, yourself, even know???
While you're at it, since you have a turbo, tell us how hot the intake tube gets between the turbo exit and the TB at say... 9 PSI. Is your metal tube helping matters or hurting it? Or, does it even make any difference?
Have you tried a plastic CAI on your turbo? How about an AEM?
Talk about it, bro, instead of attacking ppl... That doesn't PROVE dick...