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Hello,
don't really know whether to post this in the engine forums or the civic forums, but since the main question deals with the car itself i guess i'll post here.
I don't own a civic yet, but am looking to purchase one. i don't really know anything of hondas except they are cheap and reliable. I recently bought my wife a 2004 CR-V, and we love it. Back in the day i was part of the VW crew, having numerous GTI VR6's and had fun with them. Then i graduated to BMW and most recently, MINI.
I am looking to cut my costs now that i have a new child, plus i want to still have fun. I will send the MINI off, and probably purchase a very old civic.... i don't quite know what i want yet in terms of what year or what not, but it will largely go based on what is easiest and cheapest to do for what i want to do.
ultimately I want to do an engine swap - not myself mind you, but hopefully at a local shop. I want the car to be a sleeper (i'm not a big fan of wings, bodykits, rims or anything.... and i need a 4-door because of the baby and wife.... i also want a manual to retain the fun factor. I was looking at the '92-'95 civic sedan 5-speed (works perfect for me) and the '90 - '93 accord sedans 5-speed (larger and older-looking, but seems to work).... i like both body styles but could also settle for the '88-'91 civic sedans if absolutely necessary as well.
i have come from internet researching to realize the "apparent" golden swap for hondas is the B16a for the civics, or H22 for the accords... is this correct? there are hundreds of pages on the internet all saying different things, and not many being of much help...
Ultimately, i want to know which is easiest, most fun, most fuel efficient, and cheapest to do? I have a MINI Cooper S right now, and am going to sell it to make some money - i figure i can build a honda just as fast and economical and pocket some serious dough.
I have been scouring the internet looking for information regarding swaps, but i just find a lot of garbage really - no hardcore serious info. random forum questions, people complaining about companies, or modifications to people's personal rides seems to be the primary search results...
my biggest concern is WHERE to buy the swap kit from, which kit to get, and who to install it? apparently there are no places in san antonio that can do this, or at least i haven't seen on the internet. is there a page with dealers/mechanics listed in different areas anywhere? how about a step by step guide to swaps and what is recommended.
finally, if you guys were in my shoes, which car and swap would you do? keep in mind i DO have a budget - no more than $4 G's for the car (if it were stock) and hopefully no more than $4 G's for the swap itself INSTALLED (including engine, tranny, and ECU).
I am weary of buying a previously swapped car simply because most of them are... well... there really is no polite way to say it but, they are made extremely heinously ugly. We all know it - people with poor taste seem to flock to the civic and make it ugly. I want a bone-stock looking civic with a B16 in it.... i am not going to lower it, not going to put rims on it.... bone stock looking. i merely want it for my personal enjoyment, not to race 18 year olds on the street. the most modified version i'd consider would be maybe springs and rims... but they'd have to be in good taste. no fancy paint jobs or wings.
If i can find one used that has little or no modifications to the exterior, i'd rather just buy that as i'm assuming all the hard work has been done, but i haven't seen any previously done swaps that are *not* in hatchbacks.
any and all opinions are GREATLY valued and i appreciate ANY direction you guys can point me (to include links to other threads that cover this more in detail). plus just your personal opinion if you were in my shoes.
please, educate me!
thanks
don't really know whether to post this in the engine forums or the civic forums, but since the main question deals with the car itself i guess i'll post here.
I don't own a civic yet, but am looking to purchase one. i don't really know anything of hondas except they are cheap and reliable. I recently bought my wife a 2004 CR-V, and we love it. Back in the day i was part of the VW crew, having numerous GTI VR6's and had fun with them. Then i graduated to BMW and most recently, MINI.
I am looking to cut my costs now that i have a new child, plus i want to still have fun. I will send the MINI off, and probably purchase a very old civic.... i don't quite know what i want yet in terms of what year or what not, but it will largely go based on what is easiest and cheapest to do for what i want to do.
ultimately I want to do an engine swap - not myself mind you, but hopefully at a local shop. I want the car to be a sleeper (i'm not a big fan of wings, bodykits, rims or anything.... and i need a 4-door because of the baby and wife.... i also want a manual to retain the fun factor. I was looking at the '92-'95 civic sedan 5-speed (works perfect for me) and the '90 - '93 accord sedans 5-speed (larger and older-looking, but seems to work).... i like both body styles but could also settle for the '88-'91 civic sedans if absolutely necessary as well.
i have come from internet researching to realize the "apparent" golden swap for hondas is the B16a for the civics, or H22 for the accords... is this correct? there are hundreds of pages on the internet all saying different things, and not many being of much help...
Ultimately, i want to know which is easiest, most fun, most fuel efficient, and cheapest to do? I have a MINI Cooper S right now, and am going to sell it to make some money - i figure i can build a honda just as fast and economical and pocket some serious dough.
I have been scouring the internet looking for information regarding swaps, but i just find a lot of garbage really - no hardcore serious info. random forum questions, people complaining about companies, or modifications to people's personal rides seems to be the primary search results...
my biggest concern is WHERE to buy the swap kit from, which kit to get, and who to install it? apparently there are no places in san antonio that can do this, or at least i haven't seen on the internet. is there a page with dealers/mechanics listed in different areas anywhere? how about a step by step guide to swaps and what is recommended.
finally, if you guys were in my shoes, which car and swap would you do? keep in mind i DO have a budget - no more than $4 G's for the car (if it were stock) and hopefully no more than $4 G's for the swap itself INSTALLED (including engine, tranny, and ECU).
I am weary of buying a previously swapped car simply because most of them are... well... there really is no polite way to say it but, they are made extremely heinously ugly. We all know it - people with poor taste seem to flock to the civic and make it ugly. I want a bone-stock looking civic with a B16 in it.... i am not going to lower it, not going to put rims on it.... bone stock looking. i merely want it for my personal enjoyment, not to race 18 year olds on the street. the most modified version i'd consider would be maybe springs and rims... but they'd have to be in good taste. no fancy paint jobs or wings.
If i can find one used that has little or no modifications to the exterior, i'd rather just buy that as i'm assuming all the hard work has been done, but i haven't seen any previously done swaps that are *not* in hatchbacks.
any and all opinions are GREATLY valued and i appreciate ANY direction you guys can point me (to include links to other threads that cover this more in detail). plus just your personal opinion if you were in my shoes.
please, educate me!
thanks