alright, maybe im thinking of something else. what i did was i got a civic short shifter that left a 1/2" gap. i just put a lot of washers in there, then i think it was petroleum(sp?) grease, tightened it up, and its been working fine since.Pineapple Devil said:if you used alot of washers then it sounds like the same thing. how does it feel shifting? do you have to keep lubing it up?