i hope not!
yeah that's true, i/h/e will only add 5-8 hp. it's obd3 i think. if you want performance on an 01+ civic you have to convert it to obd1 but then it might not pass emissions.Kewl Kat said:I've heard all kinds of weird things... supposedly all the emmisions things in it are really choking the hell out of the engine and your standard fare of bolt-ons bearly help it at all. I dunno for sure though, I don't actually have one myself and this is what I hear from my friends who have them.
That's absolutely true! I unfortunately didn't know this until after i bought my 7th gen thats why im holdin out on any performance mods until someone finds a loophole to this and other companies start jumping on the R&D to get more gains.yeah that's true, i/h/e will only add 5-8 hp. it's obd3 i think. if you want performance on an 01+ civic you have to convert it to obd1 but then it might not pass emissions
like i said the "loophole" to this is converting it to obd1. i haven't heard of anybody doing this but i'm sure it's been done. the differences between 1, 2, and 3 is that each one adds more sensors to monitor emissions, so for example if your exhaust causes more emissions to exit the car the ecu will do something to counter that. that's why mods add so little hp on these civics. also the 00-01 gsr's are the same way; for example the greddy turbo kit designed for the 3gen gsr's doesn't work on 00-01 cause of that obd3 crap.kindred6ul said:
That's absolutely true! I unfortunately didn't know this until after i bought my 7th gen thats why im holdin out on any performance mods until someone finds a loophole to this and other companies start jumping on the R&D to get more gains.
I was going to keep quiet, but this is getting silly. What the hell are you rambling about?just chillin said:
...the differences between 1, 2, and 3 is that each one adds more sensors to monitor emissions, so for example if your exhaust causes more emissions to exit the car the ecu will do something to counter that. that's why mods add so little hp on these civics. also the 00-01 gsr's are the same way; for example the greddy turbo kit designed for the 3gen gsr's doesn't work on 00-01 cause of that obd3 crap.
This OBD III prototype system was built by GM Hughes Electronics, and uses a roadside transmitter to interrogate vehicles as they pass by. The system is reportedly capable of retrieving information from eight lanes of bumper-to-bumper traffic whizzing by at speeds up to 100-MPH.
“We paid a contractor to build up a couple of mock cars with remote transmitting systems and demonstrate that it was technically feasible to have a system that sends out a remote transmittal when the check engine light comes on,” said McCarthy. “A pretty basic contract since there are already systems like On-Star and LoJack.”
“The concept is to stop requiring smog checks for every passing car and only test the failing cars. It would likely be a voluntary system - when you buy the car you could choose whether to go to smog check every two years or pay $xxx and never have to go to smog check,” said McCarthy. “You would, however, have to push a button on the dash once every three months that would send a signal that identifies your vehicle and the status of the check engine light. If you forgot to push the button you would probably get a letter in the mail telling you to press it or bring it in for inspection. If you pressed the button while the MIL [CEL] was on, you would probably get a letter in the mail saying you have 60 days [yeah right!] to correct the problem and press the button again. If the MIL [CEL] came on and you got it fixed before you pressed the button, you would never get any notice in the mail. There would not be a continuous signal identifying the location of the car or anything like that.”
Looks like you are into performance right off with those heffer rims.