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My current car isn't why I dislike GM. If money wasn't a problem in 96 and I was looking at a family sedan, I see no reason why you wouldn't want an R. Only thing cooler would be a 3 series. But, if you have a wife/kids involved I'd take the volvo just from the safety standpoint. Its not "ahead" of anything, but for its time, it was a fairly unique piece, hell, performance luxury sedan's were in their fledgeling days back then, they weren't all over the market like they are today, and the motor is an odd ball. Hell the whole layout and some of the ergonomics, while different, aren't bad. Example, the placement of the door handles.i don't think gm > all. i just think you look down on other comparable products because you like your car. "Oh i hate new cars because it doesn't drive like my volvo", "i hate gm because my volvo is awesome and better made". and when it was new is a valid argument since you are talking about comparable gm's from the same generation. your car is in no way shape or form special impressive nor was it leagues of ahead of anything at anytime other than being overpriced to fix(when new) much like my current bmw. i do understand your love for your car but i feel like you have a tendency to think it's better than what it really is...as much as you make fun of it for being an overweight fwd pig(no it being turbo doesn't make up for anything except increased understeer.
but i do just like fucking with you and i know you like fucking with me.
i've just never had a love for volvo's and b16's......
my car suites my criteria, fwd, cheap aftermarket, kind of ugly(nobody fucks with it or wants to steal it) and great on gas.
I do have some bias, yes, I love the car to death. Is it the best car out there, no, I don't think I've ever overstated the cars abilities. Its fairly quick, well now anyways, its a whale in the corners, built like a house, and its like driving my livingroom around with a turbo attached. In town, my mpg kinda blows, but thats probably due to me staying in boost when I can, lol, and for me, its always been dependable,and cheap to fix.
I think for a family 4 door, in its time, you'd be hard pressed to find a car that offers a balance of everything it does/did. Thats the point I'm trying to make. I guess I have a hard time seeing why anyone would prefer a Honda Accord to an upscale euro sedan given the choice. The reason most of us go with japeneese products/domestic products is because of money.
For the price, you can't beat the quality and reliability. But assuming everyone had $ you'd see a lot more 3 series/C class ect. rolling around. Keep in mind those are the cars it would be best to compare the 850 to.