SoCal Hybrids....

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Nossy

Discussion Starter · Mar 9, 2002

This is for anyone who has a hybrid in SoCal....what do you do about smog? Pretty much it is illegal (smog wise) to put an engine in a car that didn't have an option for that engine from the factory (like a b18c5 in a 90 Rex for example)....so what do all of you guys who have swaps do about getting your car smogged? I am planning on doing a swap w/ my 88 rex, but will probably end up keeping it longer than 2 years (and will thus need to get the car smogged)....my father actually has a smog license....but he wouldn't fake it for even me (I know, I know, integrity is a bitch

)....I'm just trying to sort out a few things before I go and start planning the swap. Is it OK to put a ZC engine in a rex since its the JDM counterpart of the car or what....any help in this area is appreciated.

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ol'skoolrex_PH

· #2 · Mar 9, 2002

fuck being legal - MORE POWER!

Nossy

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 9, 2002

Don't get me wrong....its not that I mind not being smog legal....but if I plan to drive this car it has to be registered....and if its going to stay registered it needs to be smogged....that is my only concern....driving around a car w/ a non smog-legal engine doesn't bother me...but driving around a non-registered car does....

crxrocks

· #4 · Mar 9, 2002

Another reason not to live in/move to California.

Chris

ol'skoolrex_PH

· #5 · Mar 9, 2002

how long until your next smog? what my buddy does with his JDM B16 is swap back in the stock LS B18 when he smogs it every two years not that big a deal every 2 years

Nossy

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 9, 2002

I just bought the car....so still a while before I will have to get it smogged....just trying to work out all the details (in my head at least

) on what can/can't/has to be done....

crXtreme

· #7 · Mar 9, 2002

i'm in socal too.. i'm might buy a crx with an engine swap that was last smogged 08/17/2000 so its gonna need to be smogged soon..tell me if you find a place.

CRXtc

· #8 · Mar 9, 2002

get it smog certified from the BAR...thatz what im doin on next monday.....they will give you a sticker that says to smog the car as whatever motor you drop....however....if you drop any JDM motor then yu prolly wont pass.....i have heard of some B16's passing....but the ZC will not..........check out the pix of this cool BAR sticker

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crXtreme

· #9 · Mar 9, 2002

its a jdm d16... i doubt it will pass.

MikeKid

· #10 · Mar 9, 2002

A B18C5 in a CRX will pass smog (assuming it actually has good emissions ratings and all that)... the rule is: The engine in the vehicle must be from the same year or newer and must be offered in the US....

Nossy

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 9, 2002

MikeKid said:
A B18C5 in a CRX will pass smog (assuming it actually has good emissions ratings and all that)... the rule is: The engine in the vehicle must be from the same year or newer and must be offered in the US....

But the b18c5 is not offered in the US IN THE CRX

PSIKOTICsi

· #12 · Mar 9, 2002

when i bought this car it had a SOHC ZC which is a jdm version of the d16a6 and when i looked at the smog papers for it it passed with flying colors(it did better than my frens dx motor). now that i have turbo itll be harder to smog it but our crew has a hok up with smog....i jes gotta pay 100 bucks.

the thing with swapping motors is that it must be the same year or newer....then when you do the swap and have all the smog equipment hooked on you have to get your car certified from a referee. if you pass you get a carb sticker for your car saying your car is registered with whatever motor you put in it. ive seen a carb sticker on a 92-95 hatchback with a JDM h22 motor in it.

MikeKid

· #13 · Mar 9, 2002

Nossy said:
But the b18c5 is not offered in the US IN THE CRX

but it is offered in a vehicle (Type R) that is distributed in the US after the CRX was released... that's what matters...

crXtreme

· #14 · Mar 9, 2002

yeah he's right.. you CAN legally have a b18c5 in a CRX because the engine is newer then the crx and it comes from a CA certified car. I've seen crx b18c5's with bar stickers..

Nossy

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 11, 2002

MikeKid said:
but it is offered in a vehicle (Type R) that is distributed in the US after the CRX was released... that's what matters...

OK....got it....

Thanks everybody for your input, it was appreciated.....I could (and have in the past) ask my dad all these questions....but he has a way of explaining them that can be confusing (most likely in an effort to turn me off from imports

).....

How does one go about getting this certification done? As in who needs to be contacted....is there any info on the BAR site online? And if not, then where can it be found. Thanks.

CRXtc

· #16 · Mar 11, 2002

what i know that you need to have to get BAR certification is this:
the motor has to be the same year as the car or newer
the motor has to have all emissions equipment present
if any aftermarket parts are used that effect emissions they must have CARB numbers
you have to have the proper ECU
the engine has to look like it would b safe to drive on the street with...
thatz pretty much it.....what they will do is then do a visiual smog check then do the actual smog check and if yu pass then you will get the sticker....i have my appointment set up for a week from today....hopefully i will b leaving that day with the sticker......

crXtreme

· #17 · Mar 11, 2002

bring receipts/paperwork for the motor too.

CRXtc

· #18 · Mar 13, 2002

do i have to? i bought the motor from my homie...it was his cousins motor...she got in a wreck and she totaled the car so i bought it from him/her.......

Mr. Clockwork

· #19 · Mar 13, 2002

Here is the lowdown. You have to go to a California State certified Smog Referee. They are like 10x more strict than any smog stuff, and they know their shit so don't fuck with them. Basically, you need to have a US legal motor in your car that is the same age or newer than your prospective vehicle. Meaning b16a2, b18b, b18c1, b18c5...whatever. If you have a JDM spec motor...such as ZC, B16a, you will not pass, don't bother. One thing that we have done in the past with the case of the jdm b16a is to take a stamp and put a number past it...such as the b16a2 (del-sol vtec). When you go in the ref is going to look at the number on your block, then look in his book to see if it is in there as a US spec motor. If it isn't in his book, then he will call a dealership, give them the code and then they will tell him if is it a US spec motor. If the dealer doesn't know, then they will call Coporate and ask them. So basically...get a US spec motor or you have no chance. Also, you can't mess with your fuel/ecu at all becuase that is all illegal, all your bolt ons have to be CARB certified, and it has to pass emmissions...otherwise...if you can do all that....you will have a totally legal motor swap. It will even show up on the cops little readout saying that you have it and that it is legal...which includes the CARB numbers on your exhaust so he can't try and hit you with the illegal modification of exhaust ticket either.

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UltimX

· #20 · Mar 13, 2002

PSIkoticsi: what are u talking about? i didn't get the post on the frist page. I want to make clear before i saysomething

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