Stick vs Auto myth or fact??

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w1ngzer0

Discussion Starter · Feb 14, 2002

Ok i have been talking to a lot of street racers wherever i work for some reason... Well anyway one of them were saying auto was faster becuase since humans are imperfict and shifting isn't as prosice as a computer just wanted to get some info on how people feel about it.

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CiVTEC

· #2 · Feb 14, 2002

I have an automatic becuz I drive in the city.

A manual, you can control when to shift so you can stay in the higher RPM range (which civics LOVE). You can do that in an automatic too but, you would have to mash your foot on the pedal.

Manual 5-speed vs. 4 speed Auto. Gear ratios different too...

The absolute best transmission is a CVT (Used to be available on a Civic HX). Race proven in dune buggies, snow mobiles..etc.

djmano

· #3 · Feb 14, 2002

yah sure there is the advantage of gas and go, but what skill does it take to operate an automatic car? a heavy brick and a club could drag an automatic car. stick is fun to drive, and requires skill to manipulate it to its full abilities such as launching and downshifting etc. manual transmissions will always put more power to the ground then auto's as well.

w1ngzer0

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 14, 2002

Ok problem high RPM's?? ummm not a problem at all VTECH 98 after not sure on this new VTECH for 2002. But someone i knew civic shifted at 7 so i don't know what you meen by high RPM plus you can set the computer to shift soft or hard *shrug* Also was saying shifting shocks your car not sure what he ment by that...

w1ngzer0

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 14, 2002

I noticed you can't drift with a auto though but who drifts in america thats a japan thing ;p. American thing is drag. But umm yah stick would be understandable more fun

solo-x

· #6 · Feb 14, 2002

a race built automatic would be consistently faster, but nearly impossible to drive on the street with any semblance of comfort.

just chillin

· #7 · Feb 14, 2002

w1ngzer0 said:
Ok i have been talking to a lot of street racers wherever i work for some reason... Well anyway one of them were saying auto was faster becuase since humans are imperfict and shifting isn't as prosice as a computer just wanted to get some info on how people feel about it.

with manual you get much better launches when racing. also it's just much more fun to drive.

CivicOwnage

· #8 · Feb 14, 2002

Its a myth and i know cause i went from auto to manual. There are factors though, regular stock auto trannys suck they cant beat shit. CVT though is the best for racing, thats what i had and being at 6500 rpm all the time realy kicked ass when manuals had to switch, but cvt cant take to much at 92k miles it started slipping, actualy it was way earlier come to think of it. They cant take racing unless you make a racing cvt tranny. Also you can make any auto just as fast as any manual, you can make autos switch at any rpm you want too so about it having more control is just bs cause you make anything redline with just a little mods. To tell you all the truth too i havent noticed a difference between my manual and my old cvt tranny. i realy loved that tranny and i think my car is still same speed. Maybe im wrong, but i have noticed a little very little difference which is i accelarate a little fast, but my top end is worst then before i belive. My cvt's top end was realy good thats why i though i would mention that.

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CanCivic

· #9 · Feb 14, 2002

Hi Guys If you want to have more fun get a Standard BUT if you have a long drive to work and back and you want to relaxe going home get a Auto. Autos can be fun too!

Cost

· #10 · Feb 14, 2002

w1ngzer0 said:
Ok problem high RPM's?? ummm not a problem at all VTECH 98 after not sure on this new VTECH for 2002. But someone i knew civic shifted at 7 so i don't know what you meen by high RPM plus you can set the computer to shift soft or hard *shrug* Also was saying shifting shocks your car not sure what he ment by that...

Just so you don't get flamed any time in the future.. it's VTEC. And, I'd rather drive a MT.

w1ngzer0

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 14, 2002

Flammed is there going to be a gay guy after me?? LOL. But i don't care if people correct me i don't have a big ego like most guys

UCRaccordV6

· #12 · Feb 14, 2002

i heard of auto being faster, dont know if its true

Alan_Postman

· #13 · Feb 14, 2002

I am thinking should I get the 2002 Civic Si or the base RSX with sequential shift. I tested both AT and MT base RSX and found the MT does feel like it has a little bit more power. Maybe because their gear ratio are different.

For the 02 Civic Si, it uses basicly the same engine the base RSX is using. It should be a little bit faster and a lot more fun comparing to the AT RSX since it has better gear ratio and lighter. However, the AT RSX is very fun to drive, too. It has an iVTEC engine so I can redline it whenever I want with the sequential shifter and it won't hurt the engine that much. It response pretty fast compare to the sequential AT version of the new Toyota Celica or the TL 3.2. The best thing is I can put it in "drive" and drive it like an AT car. It is very useful if I just come out from a club or a party at 4:00am when there are PiGs all over the street.

I really cannot decide myself. Please give me some of your opinions.

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MRXMUFFIN

· #14 · Feb 14, 2002

maybe that guy meant that the auto trannies shift faster or at a more accurate specified rpm.

and yes for racing the MT is just better. and yes i do drive an auto but love having fun with a manual.

trentdx

· #15 · Feb 14, 2002

man, get with the program everyone knows your not
cool unless you have a 6 speed sequential tranny

but seriously, for bracket racing auto trannys are the
way to go, you never miss a shift, and unless your a REALLY
bad driver your time slips should all be within a tenth or so +or-

then there are ppl like my friend joe that can run the same time every day with a 5speed and keep his RT around .500

auto are great, just not in the case of a honda

Johnny Tran

· #16 · Feb 14, 2002

Look at all the test reviews...When ever they test the same car with mt, and at...The MT always comes up with better times. At least any I have seen.

trentdx

· #17 · Feb 14, 2002

CivicOwnage said:
Its a myth and i know cause i went from auto to manual. There are factors though, regular stock auto trannys suck they cant beat shit. CVT though is the best for racing, thats what i had and being at 6500 rpm all the time realy kicked ass when manuals had to switch, but cvt cant take to much at 92k miles it started slipping, actualy it was way earlier come to think of it. They cant take racing unless you make a racing cvt tranny. Also you can make any auto just as fast as any manual, you can make autos switch at any rpm you want too so about it having more control is just bs cause you make anything redline with just a little mods. To tell you all the truth too i havent noticed a difference between my manual and my old cvt tranny. i realy loved that tranny and i think my car is still same speed. Maybe im wrong, but i have noticed a little very little difference which is i accelarate a little fast, but my top end is worst then before i belive. My cvt's top end was realy good thats why i though i would mention that.

your car "should" be faster now, just taken the fact of how much lighter a 5speed gear box is from the old auto gear box

LudeAction

· #18 · Feb 14, 2002

this is by FAR the dumbest thread i have ever seen, a manual is way faster than a auto....gear ratio is differnent and u have another speed...expect about a .5 second difference between stick and auto tranny's...and it takes alot of cash to drop a half a second off of a 1/4 mile..i/e might do it....i had an auto civic ex, and it was a DOOOGGGGGG, a stick hx can hang with it easy... my civic shifted at 6900rpms and manuals at 7200....manual is faster and its more of a driver/skill race than who has more money dumped into their car.....

Hybrid Fever

· #19 · Feb 14, 2002

auto vs. manual

Ok let me break it down, for any Honda, a manual transmission is going to be faster and more effective for racing. for bigger imports such as the 300zx an auto might be quicker. If your talking about imports manual will be quicker, but as for domestics an automatic will be much better. It is much easier to modify a domestic auto than it is an import auto.

Biff

· #20 · Feb 14, 2002

w1ngzer0 said:
I noticed you can't drift with a auto though but who drifts in america thats a japan thing ;p. American thing is drag. But umm yah stick would be understandable more fun

I would really like to see what kind of drifting could be done with a front wheel drive car. I'm talking actual drifting, not just oversteering into a fishtail. You need rear wheel drive to do a true drift.

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