You get almost equivalent gains for the same price by doing a swap to a B16A2 or similar. If you want to go forced induction on top of that, then go from there, but its generally recommended that you swap first from a price/performance perspective.
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Two points...dingusjt said:
First, the only reason you need a turbo timer is to let the engine idle for a while before it shuts off. If you let your engine idle, like you're supposed to, there is no need for it, but ppl are stupid; what can I tell you? When you shut your motor off, the oil supply to the turbo stops. If you come wheeling-in and park, that turbo might be spinning 50,000 RPM. You shut your engine off and the oil supply stops. The turbo can run for quite a while after the engine is shut off, and spinning with no oil is bad, blah, blah, blah, hence, the need for a timer for stupid ppl. When you shut your motor off with a JRSC, it stops at the same time as the engine.
Secondly, on the TOP-END, turbos will give you more power than a SC. But, on the low-end and mid-range, SC's rule. So, it depends on your needs. If you want to race, turbo's are the way to go. If you want better drivability on the street, SC's are the way to go.
To put it into perspective, a SC will give you more power at 3,000 RPM than you now have at red line. With a turbo, most of the power gain will be at, near, or beyond red line.
If you like to go to the track on weekends, get a turbo. If you drive mostly on the street and go to the track seldom, get a SC.
BTW, you have the best SOHC engine Honda ever made, so you ARE starting off with the right motor. Don't be afraid to stick some money in it. You will be handsomely rewarded whichever route you decide to go...
In anticipation of the next question?
Sounds like you have a nice setup. I can understand you wanting to defend your choice of engines. Nobody wants to be wrong, but I was simply stating a well known fact and, yes, my opinion. I didn't mean to step on anybody's dreams...
You are correct in saying, a Z6 block with a Y8 head is better than a Z6 block with a Z6 head. Why? A Y8 head has a slightly smaller combustion chamber volume - and I mean slight. It will give you .5:1 [dot-5] more compression. Y8 blocks, on the other hand, are prone to main/rod bearing failure. Why? I don't know, but it's common knowledge. So, the hot setup is a Z6 block with a Y8 head, or just forget the Y8 head and the .5 higher compression ratio.
You've already mentioned the OBD1 vs OBD2 situation. The advantage should be obvious to anyone except a newbie; so, no explanation necessary. Also, with a Z6 engine you don't have to deal with a crank fluctuation sensor, knock sensor, dual heated filament broadband oxygen sensors and all that happy horsesh!t.
I would say there are more bolt-ons and internal parts available for Z6's than any other SOHC Honda engine, but I don't feel like playing Perry Mason, so don't bother asking.
Z6's will bolt into ALL post-'84 CiViCs'. With a Y8 you'll have to fart around with wiring harnesses and so forth.
Anyway, these are a few reasons. I'm not alone in this view, so it shouldn't have come as any surprise to you. Is this really the first time you've ever heard someone say this?
There are a lot of reasons. I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you, but I'll mention a few.
Sounds like you have a nice setup. I can understand you wanting to defend your choice of engines. Nobody wants to be wrong, but I was simply stating a well known fact and, yes, my opinion. I didn't mean to step on anybody's dreams...
You are correct in saying, a Z6 block with a Y8 head is better than a Z6 block with a Z6 head. Why? A Y8 head has a slightly smaller combustion chamber volume - and I mean slight. It will give you .5:1 [dot-5] more compression. Y8 blocks, on the other hand, are prone to main/rod bearing failure. Why? I don't know, but it's common knowledge. So, the hot setup is a Z6 block with a Y8 head, or just forget the Y8 head and the .5 higher compression ratio.
You've already mentioned the OBD1 vs OBD2 situation. The advantage should be obvious to anyone except a newbie; so, no explanation necessary. Also, with a Z6 engine you don't have to deal with a crank fluctuation sensor, knock sensor, dual heated filament broadband oxygen sensors and all that happy horsesh!t.
I would say there are more bolt-ons and internal parts available for Z6's than any other SOHC Honda engine, but I don't feel like playing Perry Mason, so don't bother asking.
Z6's will bolt into ALL post-'84 CiViCs'. With a Y8 you'll have to fart around with wiring harnesses and so forth.
Anyway, these are a few reasons. I'm not alone in this view, so it shouldn't have come as any surprise to you. Is this really the first time you've ever heard someone say this?
BDC - if you swap a Y8 head onto a D16z6 bolck, would you have to switch ECU as well? What about engine wire harness, or the OBDII factor?BlackDeuceCoupe said:In anticipation of the next question?
There are a lot of reasons. I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you, but I'll mention a few.
Sounds like you have a nice setup. I can understand you wanting to defend your choice of engines. Nobody wants to be wrong, but I was simply stating a well known fact and, yes, my opinion. I didn't mean to step on anybody's dreams...
You are correct in saying, a Z6 block with a Y8 head is better than a Z6 block with a Z6 head. Why? A Y8 head has a slightly smaller combustion chamber volume - and I mean slight. It will give you .5:1 [dot-5] more compression. Y8 blocks, on the other hand, are prone to main/rod bearing failure. Why? I don't know, but it's common knowledge. So, the hot setup is a Z6 block with a Y8 head, or just forget the Y8 head and the .5 higher compression ratio.
You've already mentioned the OBD1 vs OBD2 situation. The advantage should be obvious to anyone except a newbie; so, no explanation necessary. Also, with a Z6 engine you don't have to deal with a crank fluctuation sensor, knock sensor, dual heated filament broadband oxygen sensors and all that happy horsesh!t.
I would say there are more bolt-ons and internal parts available for Z6's than any other SOHC Honda engine, but I don't feel like playing Perry Mason, so don't bother asking.
Z6's will bolt into ALL post-'84 CiViCs'. With a Y8 you'll have to fart around with wiring harnesses and so forth.
Anyway, these are a few reasons. I'm not alone in this view, so it shouldn't have come as any surprise to you. Is this really the first time you've ever heard someone say this?
Thanks.
BDC posts are so refreshing. I wish he was the typical member.
what does "BDC" Mean???BlackEG_Si said:BDC posts are so refreshing. I wish he was the typical member.
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