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thinkin of h22 or a turbo

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i have been debating this for a while but what it comes down to is how much stuff im gonna need to do each

what else do i need for the h22 swap if i have:
the engine, tranny, ecu, axles, intermediate shaft, and engine harness

also, what do i need for the turbo besides the basic manifold, turbo, wastegate, downpipe and blowoff valve?
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get the drag kit or fmax but i recommend the drag kit but just upgrade the waste gate to hks or what ever
dont those kits run around like over $3000. i was thinking of a custom set up because of the cost
i can give u a good price for the drag if you really are thinking about it email me [email protected]
For me...If it was between turbo, and H22, it would be turbo. Both will cost about the same. Both will give about the same performance. But only one has a nice little intercooler sitting up front. everyone always says to get H22, then turbo...but how many ppl actually do that? I think i've seen a hand full so far. F22 is a good engine to turbo, and can be built. although, both would be fun.
BadAss96 said:
i have been debating this for a while but what it comes down to is how much stuff im gonna need to do each

what else do i need for the h22 swap if i have:
the engine, tranny, ecu, axles, intermediate shaft, and engine harness

also, what do i need for the turbo besides the basic manifold, turbo, wastegate, downpipe and blowoff valve?
h22a all you need is:h22a motor, tranny, ecu, modified accord harness. THATS ALL :) if you have a manual, if you have a auto a whole bunch more is involved.
95accord22 said:
For me...If it was between turbo, and H22, it would be turbo. Both will cost about the same. Both will give about the same performance. But only one has a nice little intercooler sitting up front. everyone always says to get H22, then turbo...but how many ppl actually do that? I think i've seen a hand full so far. F22 is a good engine to turbo, and can be built. although, both would be fun.
if you wanna say all like that then really did you know that the bottom end of the f22 is better the the preludes ;)
hey wheres all gear heads like stevtec and stuff they would br god refrences
What Is That said:

if you wanna say all like that then really did you know that the bottom end of the f22 is better the the preludes ;)
are you serious? i always used to hear that the f22 internals were shit
BadAss96 said:


are you serious? i always used to hear that the f22 internals were shit
F series engines make a lot more power in the low end of the rpm range, it has more torque at lower rpm,s than a H22, the h22 makes all its power around 5k and up
thats an easy question, get a h22 AND a turbo...problem solved.:D
an f series engine makes a better platform for a turbo, due to the fact of its lower compression, larger displacement, longer stroke, and better low end torgue. when you turbo an h22, youre still not making any real power until the turbo spools up at about 3000 depending on the size of the turbo, and even then, you can boost more on an f engine, just because the compression in an h22 is way higher.
munkeysoup said:
thats an easy question, get a h22 AND a turbo...problem solved.:D
i agree
Go H22

The intercooler sitting up front looks nice, but you really cant do that much to f22. Sohc, with no Vtec on half of them, that doesnt leave you with much even with a turbo. Yeah i love my accord lx and it has the best torque/Hp ratio of any honda ever, but its still a heavy car and slow. Who really cares about not much power less than 5 grand in a H22. Do you race and shift at 4900 everytime or something. Maybe thats why you think your car needs a turbo. THe whole point of a swap is to make your car faster when you race, not when you go to the supermarket.
Another thing, with a swap, you get a newer engine and if its a JDM engine, theres probably less than 40,000 miles, so instead of making the car age faster like a turbo would, you restore your car and give it more life for around the same price as a turbo.
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What Is That said:
hey wheres all gear heads like stevtec and stuff they would br god refrences
how much can you get the f-max kit WITHOUT the msd timing retard, extra injectors, mf2, and gasket???I don't need any of those extras.

thanks
Re: Go H22

94AccordNoV said:
The intercooler sitting up front looks nice, but you really cant do that much to f22. Sohc, with no Vtec on half of them, that doesnt leave you with much even with a turbo. Yeah i love my accord lx and it has the best torque/Hp ratio of any honda ever, but its still a heavy car and slow. Who really cares about not much power less than 5 grand in a H22. Do you race and shift at 4900 everytime or something. Maybe thats why you think your car needs a turbo. THe whole point of a swap is to make your car faster when you race, not when you go to the supermarket.
Another thing, with a swap, you get a newer engine and if its a JDM engine, theres probably less than 40,000 miles, so instead of making the car age faster like a turbo would, you restore your car and give it more life for around the same price as a turbo.
Actually, I was talking about a f23 with vtec, on my 2k1 accord. Its getting built and turboed at 36,000. And about the greater torque at lower rpm, is not about being at 4900 all the time, its about getting to 4900 alot faster. You dont start from a stop at 5000rpm, you have to get there from a stop. for those who know their physics, horsepower is a derivative of torque, the curves will always cross at 5200, if i remember right. If you take 2 cars, that both have the same horsepower, same weight, except one will have a lower torque curve, it will beat the higher peaked torque car everytime. Lets take two 1998 accord coupes, weighing exactly the same weight, drvers exactly the same weight, etc. One has an h22, and one with a f23. say they make the exact same horsepower, not counting for turbo lag, or time of vtec engagement, only exact peak hp, the car with the f23 will win every time. It will pull away in 1st, and keep pulling faster. Its not always what speed your at, its how fast you get there.
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accordfreak said:


how much can you get the f-max kit WITHOUT the msd timing retard, extra injectors, mf2, and gasket???I don't need any of those extras.

thanks
Sorry kits comes with it cant just take it out
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souljad9 said:


Actually, I was talking about a f23 with vtec, on my 2k1 accord. Its getting built and turboed at 36,000. And about the greater torque at lower rpm, is not about being at 4900 all the time, its about getting to 4900 alot faster. You dont start from a stop at 5000rpm, you have to get there from a stop. for those who know their physics, horsepower is a derivative of torque, the curves will always cross at 5200, if i remember right. If you take 2 cars, that both have the same horsepower, same weight, except one will have a lower torque curve, it will beat the higher peaked torque car everytime. Lets take two 1998 accord coupes, weighing exactly the same weight, drvers exactly the same weight, etc. One has an h22, and one with a f23. say they make the exact same horsepower, not counting for turbo lag, or time of vtec engagement, only exact peak hp, the car with the f23 will win every time. It will pull away in 1st, and keep pulling faster. Its not always what speed your at, its how fast you get there.
the walls on a prelude is coated aluminum thats a One big no no already and plus the accord motor is much more a project then a h22 so that makes it more fun to build it up and plus theres getting more mods for the f series any how and look does the bmw's come dual ?
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