yea...see this what the problem i'm having right now. i have tein s tech+kyb agx. the tein springs are very soft and low as you said (235F/140R) vs stock (201F/99.8R). so when i set both F /R to the lowest setting on the agx (just to test the extreme case), it gives me a poor ride as the rims/tires bouncing hard up/down and keep hitting the fender. so then i gradually increase the shocks rate until they don't really the fenders that much. by this time though, it's almost max for both F/R (3 out of 4 F and 7 out of 8 R), and i mean they're not terribly bouncy that you will jump up and down your seat, but you can feel they're bouncy. i understand you can have the ideal situation with the true coilover cause the spring and shocks absorber rate are matched together. but is this all you can have with shocks/spring combination?