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Turboing 97 Auto DX!!

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Planning on turboing. Do I need any additioal work in order to prepare my engine for boosting. I only planning on running about 6psi until I can afford to build up my engine to handle more boost. Right now my engine is bone stock. Should I apply the basic bolt-ons first or just go straight for the turbo?
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i would just do a swap instead of turboing a dx.
i would get a manual tranny car also... i would do a swap as well... for another car
SoFlaGS-T said:
i would get a manual tranny car also... i would do a swap as well... for another car
Don`t listen that pain in the ass...
no, im kidding around... but why would you do that on an auto tranny... its just gonna give you problems...
yeah seriously... change the transmission or engine and you'll save yourself a lot of trouble in the end
Moderate power gain from moderate boost should be fine with the auto-tranny. I know plenty of preludes and civics with auto tranny and turbo'ed.

Do get synthetic tranny oil, and maybe even a tranny oil cooler. Also give level ten a shout, they could make your auto faster than a manual.
GlobalKiller said:
Planning on turboing. Do I need any additioal work in order to prepare my engine for boosting. I only planning on running about 6psi until I can afford to build up my engine to handle more boost. Right now my engine is bone stock. Should I apply the basic bolt-ons first or just go straight for the turbo?
yup if want to keep it a auto then look at levelten.com their trannies and torque convertors can handle alot more power than your tranny right now.
Don't listen to the people teling you to swap to a b-series..unless you you have the money to do a lot of mods on the b-series after the swap. If you are just looking for a quick daily driver, turbo the sohc....it'll have a lot more toque and usable powerband than if you would swap , lets say, a b16a with the typical bolt-ons. Plus it'll be a blast to drive.....plus you'll shut up all the haters. I'll be boostin my auto d16z6 this summer:D I can't wait.

I noticed that most of the people talking down about boosted slushboxes are the ones who never tried it. I have seen many turbo'd automatics and they ran fine.....blast to drive since the turbo stays spooled between shifts. They surprised many 5spd cars and hybrids. As far as your setup, if you are running low boost you'll be fine....go for the turbo, the only upgrade I would do before it is exaust. I'll be running the greddy kit along with a dsm bov, dsm sidemount intercooler, an upgraded fuel pump(walboro 255lph), and a v-afc so I can tune the fuel curve. I've seen similar setups run about 8psi at the track...but I'll keep it at the stock 5.5 until I either lower the compression using a thicker headgasket or use a standalone FMU such as hondata.....with stock internals you gan go 10psi max as long as the fuel management is there.
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I know twin-cams are a better platform to build on, I'm not a retard....however, if he is looking to make his daily driver a little quicker(not an all out race car....then I'd suggest building up a b-series) A boosted sohc will have more USABLE power for the street then a b16a, b18c w/ (I/H/E) .....There was a guy on the board before the everything was redone(infamousdx.....i think that was his name) he had a built up dx, very fast car. But he probably left these boards for the same reasons I rarely post here:rolleyes: If he wanted to swap he would be asking questions about swapping, not about turbo'ing his car. I was just trying to give the guy some useful info, as opposed to saying sell the car or swap:rolleyes:
True that... I just tend to think logicly... There are a lot of people on here that dont realize that the internals in a DX are weak as shit. And if they aren't built they won't handle much boost at all. I guess we just have a differance of opinion. I think a B18C would have a lot more streetable power than a stock internal boosted DX. Plus it would run OE. Way more torque, higher revs.

To each his/her own I guess...
AztecEJ said:
Don't listen to the people teling you to swap to a b-series..unless you you have the money to do a lot of mods on the b-series after the swap. If you are just looking for a quick daily driver, turbo the sohc....it'll have a lot more toque and usable powerband than if you would swap , lets say, a b16a with the typical bolt-ons. Plus it'll be a blast to drive.....plus you'll shut up all the haters. I'll be boostin my auto d16z6 this summer:D I can't wait.

I noticed that most of the people talking down about boosted slushboxes are the ones who never tried it. I have seen many turbo'd automatics and they ran fine.....blast to drive since the turbo stays spooled between shifts. They surprised many 5spd cars and hybrids. As far as your setup, if you are running low boost you'll be fine....go for the turbo, the only upgrade I would do before it is exaust. I'll be running the greddy kit along with a dsm bov, dsm sidemount intercooler, an upgraded fuel pump(walboro 255lph), and a v-afc so I can tune the fuel curve. I've seen similar setups run about 8psi at the track...but I'll keep it at the stock 5.5 until I either lower the compression using a thicker headgasket or use a standalone FMU such as hondata.....with stock internals you gan go 10psi max as long as the fuel management is there.
I'm interested on how long the torque converter will last, lets say if i was only going to boost 6lbs?! Anyone?
peace
Originally posted by Dr Drew
True that... I just tend to think logicly... There are a lot of people on here that dont realize that the internals in a DX are weak as shit. And if they aren't built they won't handle much boost at all. I guess we just have a differance of opinion. I think a B18C would have a lot more streetable power than a stock internal boosted DX. Plus it would run OE. Way more torque, higher revs.
I was saying streetable in terms of not having to wind the engine up to redline just to get the power out of it..... you know more fun to drive on the streets. But I do understand the fact that some people just like the OE reliability of having a motor swap, plus it is a lot easier since there is minimal tuning involved....and of course a lot less can go wrong. In other words in order to properly run a turbo honda you need to know your sh*t lol. With the right amount of knowlegde and research you can make a turbo honda last very long. And if you blow a dx motor you can buy another for next to nothing.....I've even seen one being given away on thepartstrader.com a while ago:p
By the way I do respect your opinion, like you said to each his own....

ill_take_one : for low boost it should hold up for a pretty long time.(I'll find out for myself soon:D)I've heard about them lasting for over a year and still going strong. And I've seen TONs of automatic cars spraying for a long time, no report of problems from them. Like redfox said, synthetic tranny oil and a tranny cooler and you'll be fine.
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ill_take_one said:


I'm interested on how long the torque converter will last, lets say if i was only going to boost 6lbs?! Anyone?
peace
Turbo lag is what saves the torque converter from getting fried, now Supercharged to the balls is a different story. It should be ok as long as the boost is under 10 psi, or less than 200whp, the DX autotranny is built just like an Accord V6, so it should be ok.
Dr Drew said:
True that... I just tend to think logicly... There are a lot of people on here that dont realize that the internals in a DX are weak as shit. And if they aren't built they won't handle much boost at all. I guess we just have a differance of opinion. I think a B18C would have a lot more streetable power than a stock internal boosted DX. Plus it would run OE. Way more torque, higher revs.

To each his/her own I guess...
Wrong, a B18C with I/H/E will have much less torque than a turbo'ed DX. B18C torque is around 120 at the wheels, and at ridiculusly high rpm. Whereas, as an example, a turbo'ed EX would have 155 at 4000 rpm. Who do you think is going to get to the next set of traffic lights faster? :)

B18s are good, but everyone's got one. A fast SOHC, now that will get you attention.
redfox said:
B18s are good, but everyone's got one. A fast SOHC, now that will get you attention.
Personally, I think a DOHC platform will always be better...Who give`s a /$%? about ppl attention?
Booo turbo DX blows!! the crappy SOHC nonVTEC motor is just a bullshit granny motor, and in automatic?! What were you thinking when you bought the car? And then turbo on an auto DX motor???? You would get smoked by any hybrid. And don't think about running 10psi on a stock DX block, ever hear of the term "detonation"?? You will fry all your piston rings, ruin your crankshaft bearings, fry your headgasket, bend rods. Stock blocks were not meant to handle 10psi at all. And that still will only put you round 150-160. get your self a JDM B16A or B18C and you will be very happy (mostly because youw ill be driving a car that is not only manual, but has the scream of a DOHC VTEC Honda motor and trust me it sounds very nice:) ) Save yourself the time and headache and just do yourself a hybrid. They are incredibly reliable, fast, and you can even keep your car looking stock if you chose to do so and have a fast sleeper. Just my opinion on turboing a DX motor, all though I am sure other people have other opinions. Us boys and girls with real motors (DOHC VTEC) are kinda biased on our opinions...
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By the way, where in Howard County do you live? We can race after you get your turbo done...
CRXType-R said:


Personally, I think a DOHC platform will always be better...Who give`s a /$%? about ppl attention?
Difference is good. If the person standing next to you jumps off the bridge, do you? Do what you want and stick to it. You keep what you think to yourselve because it's been said a million times. But others still choose to turbo SOHCs. So when someone asks for help on Turboing a DX, answer what they ask if you can, not what jumps out of your brain washed mind. Go with the flow is what you do best, then go with the flow.
b16a ferio said:
Booo turbo DX blows!! the crappy SOHC nonVTEC motor is just a bullshit granny motor, and in automatic?! What were you thinking when you bought the car? And then turbo on an auto DX motor???? You would get smoked by any hybrid. And don't think about running 10psi on a stock DX block, ever hear of the term "detonation"?? You will fry all your piston rings, ruin your crankshaft bearings, fry your headgasket, bend rods. Stock blocks were not meant to handle 10psi at all. And that still will only put you round 150-160. get your self a JDM B16A or B18C and you will be very happy (mostly because youw ill be driving a car that is not only manual, but has the scream of a DOHC VTEC Honda motor and trust me it sounds very nice:) ) Save yourself the time and headache and just do yourself a hybrid. They are incredibly reliable, fast, and you can even keep your car looking stock if you chose to do so and have a fast sleeper. Just my opinion on turboing a DX motor, all though I am sure other people have other opinions. Us boys and girls with real motors (DOHC VTEC) are kinda biased on our opinions...
?? God, another one. Right you boys, boy is all you will be. Learn the facts, for strict racing purposes, DOHC is the way to go. For street racing? A properly tunned turboed SOHC will smoke N/A tunned DOHC any day. Detonation? Do you know what it is? D16Y8 running 15 psi daily for the past 7 month, no problem so far. If tunned properly, and throw a thicker head gasket/lower compression pistons and add some ls rods, you will be fine.

Remeber BOY, its one thing to state your opinion, it's another thing to say you've got the real motor.
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