[oneslwcivic]

Where have you guys got your ZC Motors from and what did you pay. Also what problems have you had and how long did the swap take you. I want to get a ZC with ECU and tranny but dont know what they usually cost the work entailed and where to buy from for cheap

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

where do you live..because i know a few places in southern california I can get them from

 

[oneslwcivic]

ZC

I live in pocatello Idaho. I was looking for one for around 900 shipped with ecu and tranny or less.

 

[jacobyb]

Re: ZC

I live in pocatello Idaho. I was looking for one for around 900 shipped with ecu and tranny or less.

Try www.thepartstrader.com

There was one on there a while back that was in Colorado. The kid wanted $500 for everything. He swapped in a b18c,

 

[ciVicTyP3r]

what motor is the zc? what car is it out from?

 

[oneslwcivic]

ZC Motor is from Japanese SI 1.6 DOHC Non VTEC. Around 130 Horsepower. Its a pretty simple swap for a 4th gen. The nice thing is it will bolt up to ur 89-91 Tranny from DX or SI. It won't bolt upto 88 I dont know why. I'm sure the tech guru's know alot more then me about the motor then me and will ad some things in.

Andrew Harris

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

theres also a us version of the zc but it doesnt say ZC on the block..Its in the 86-89 integras...the D16A1 I think it is...like oneslwcivic said, it will bolt up to your tranny be it si or dx...but if you put it in a dx you need an si ecu and wiring harness

 

[ciVicTyP3r]

so zc motors are good for swapping? but b16s abd b18s are still better right?

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

pretty much

 

[oneslwcivic]

Motor Swap

SOHC VTEC's and ZC's are easy and cheap. B series motors and H series motors are more powerful but more expensive and harder to swap in.

 

[CL SLeePeR]

Can a b18 be swapped into a 90 hatch? Pros&cons?

 

[oneslwcivic]

A b18 can be swapped in. If your talking about the non vtec b18a or b18b i think you need a mount kit. Plusses cheep lots of torque can do frankenstein later can meet emissions. Minuses mount kit extra weight up front harder install than sohc vtec or zc.

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

you will need a mount kit for anything larger then the sohc or zc...the b18 does have good torque and you can go ls/vetc later....as far as emissions...he makes it sound easier then it is....to pass emisions with any swap except the sohc you will have to take it to the smog ref to get it legally certified..If you do that you can smog your car anywhere...its a lot of hassle so you can get it smogged illegally and its easier. the zc from japan wont pass smog, but the one from the us will...b16a wontpass but the b16a2 and a3 will...dunno why, but the state will only let the a2 and a3 pass...any us motor will pass the ref as long as all the smog equipment is still hooked up...the motor must be the same year as your car or newer...if you go with a motor 96 or newer it has to be set up for OBD2...but once again..lots of hassle...so just say screw it, get a good motor, tune the shit out of it, smoke everyone, illegally smog it, and be happy.

if you want some good info about swaps into cars check this site out...gives a lot of good info http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

for clarification the ZC..also known as the d16A8/9 makes [email protected] rpm and 108 [email protected] d16a1 in the 86-87 integras makes [email protected] and 99 [email protected] and the d16a1 in the 88-89 integras makes [email protected] and 103 [email protected] also a 10 hp difference and 5 lbs of torque difference between the 90-91 integra ls and the 92-93 ls...the newer of the two makes moer power

 

[All_motor_b16a2]

tHE ZC ENGINE I BOUGHT FOR MY OLD EF9 CIVIC THAT I HAD I GOT IT FROM NIPPON MOTORS. THEY ONLY CHARGED ME 500 BUCKS BECAUSE I ONLY BOUGHT THE LONGBLOCK CAUSE I HAD AN 91 SI SO I JUST USED MY EXISTING TRANS AND ECU. I HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH IT WHAT SO EVER ITS A GOOD BANG FOR YOUR BUCK I SAY.

 

[CL SLeePeR]

What would I need to do a complete swap(b18c5) into a '90 civic hatch?

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

CL Sleeper-you will need engine, tranny, and ecu of course. you will need to get a b series mount kit for the 88-91 civics. if you are doing it yourself, you may need to take a hammer to the drivers side of the engine bay. In some of the US hatches I've noticed, the alternator pully and the crankshaft pully come close to the drivers side of the engine bay. A few hits with a hammer will push it far enough. But its almost impossible to do it with the motor in the car, so do it before you drop it in.

 

[CL SLeePeR]

Thanks for all your help! If I can get the c5 at a good price then I can get started. I visited the web site under your sig. How much would they charge to do a swap? I'd still rather do it myself though. Just curious. Thanks

 

[VTECsqznN2O]

CL Sleeper-CNC doesn't do swaps but Hook ups does...They did my swap and I have had zero problems.....I have only heard bad things from one person about them, and he is on here...I think its an isolated case because he is the first. As far as the price, off the top of my head I can't quote you a price, but I can find out...for reference, the b16 swap was 2000 which included labor, engine,tranny,ecu,mounts,etc. I know the c5 swap will be more expensive, unless you bring the motor to them since it is a fairly expensive motor...I believe if you have a DX you need to change the hubs, btu dont quote me on that..It just may be for the HF CRX's. for labor and mounts only, I estimate about 500..plus or minus a few..If you want I can call them and then get back to you..