Will she be faster?

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ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · Sep 19, 2002

While sourceing a ZC tranny w/ LSD, I came across a 94 Si tranny that is being installed as I type this. I have gone 14.8 in the 1/4mi with the ZC and DX tranny. My question is will I see better 1/4mi times under the conditions I ran those 14's? How much of and improvement can I expect? Is 14.6 possible with the shorter gearing?

Thanks everyone

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2trix

· #2 · Sep 19, 2002

ummm i dont think it will fit?!

ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 19, 2002

2trix said:
ummm i dont think it will fit?!

why, not? it's a cable Si tranny, i might have the year screwed up though i don't know. d series to d series right?

EDIT: just called the shop it's a 91 Si tranny

2trix

· #4 · Sep 19, 2002

never mind im dumb

ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #5 · Sep 19, 2002

So will she get faster or better worded, quicker?

2trix

· #6 · Sep 19, 2002

then the zc? im sure she will, you may not notice it all that much. wait so you went from a zc with lsd to an si?...im pretty sure theyll be about the same?

ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #7 · Sep 19, 2002

2trix said:
then the zc? im sure she will, you may not notice it all that much. wait so you went from a zc with lsd to an si?...im pretty sure theyll be about the same?

No no....i was looking for a ZC LSD, then found a Si tranny. I had a dx tranny till bout an hour ago.

probinu

· #8 · Sep 19, 2002

2trix said:
never mind im dumb

no don't worry bout it. people get confused about that cause they think that all SI's have the B series but they don't..only the 99-2000 SI's.

Yes it will be faster...the DX tranny has LOOOONG gears.

PS...i find it VERY hard to believe you are running 14 anything with a ZC coupled with a shitty DX tranny

ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #9 · Sep 19, 2002

probinu said:
PS...i find it VERY hard to believe you are running 14 anything with a ZC coupled with a shitty DX tranny

How bout finding out what i have done to my car 1st?

2trix

· #10 · Sep 19, 2002

for some reason i was thinking about a 94 prelude tranny! and was like...no. just one of those days?!...yeah youll notice a world of diff between the dx and si tranny!

probinu

· #11 · Sep 19, 2002

ZC'ed DXHB said:
How bout finding out what i have done to my car 1st?

how bout not being a smartass

Let's see what you have done...come on tell me. The only way you are running that kind of times is with turbo, nitrous oxide or a supercharger running at high psi or a big shot

::EDIT:: PFFFFTTTT you aren't in no 14's with that little bit of shit...especially with the long ass geared DX tranny

What...did u use a g-tech? :laff:

ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 19, 2002

probinu said:
how bout not being a smartass Let's see what you have done...come on tell me. The only way you are running that kind of times is with turbo, nitrous oxide or a supercharger running at high psi or a big shot

Ok, Sorry if I came off like a smartass.

I have, Intake,2 1/4" exh., test pipe, p&p'ed Intake Manifold,Lightspeed Header 4-2-1 for 89 integra, 89 Integra ECU, 12lb flywheel, ACT 6 puck race disc.

I have beaten B16A'ed and B18A'ed 88-91 hb's. Call it driver error or driver skill, whatever I don't care. It doesn't take a FI ZC to run 14's. I'm going again tommorow and i'll post times slips with the date and time on them and what ever you want tme to write on them too.

You can raise the BS flag and what not the the only thing that matters is the truth and thats what I'm typing the truth.
Most ZC's need a rebuild and really don't have the advertised 30k on them. I think I got a strong one, that was putted around in. The reson I think this is because it showed signs of lowmileage and very little use when we opened the head and look at the ports and other parts of her.

Once again ,I'm not trying to start a War of ZC vs. B Series.
From my experience a good ZC can Handle a b16 and b18a.

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ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 19, 2002

when i had intake and exhaust i dyno'ed at 117.2hp @ 6800 and 102.7 lb-ft @ 5700, most ZC do 110-113hp with i/h/e/ cam gears and around 98-99lb-ft. Once again I feel I have a strong ZC. Maybe a freak, I dunno.

Do I need to post pics of my dyno?

probinu

· #14 · Sep 19, 2002

but dude....A 117 whp MOTOR IS NOT going to run that in the 1320...ask ANY OG on this board!! Not even with slicks and a fully gutted interior

PS I'm not trying to flame so don't get all uppity and offended

ZC'ed DXHB

Discussion Starter · #15 · Sep 19, 2002

probinu said:
but dude....A 117 whp MOTOR IS NOT going to run that in the 1320...ask ANY OG on this board!! Not even with slicks and a fully gutted interior

PS I'm not trying to flame so don't get all uppity and offended

Ok, that was with intake and exh. and running mid and low 15's. slicks will put me into the low 14's maybe high 13's if i don't break coming off the line. I guess most of you all have bad experiences with ZC's but mine make more torque with int and exh, than SCC's project B16 when it had i/h/e/cat all the way to 5700 from idle. ZC's make better low end torque because of the longer stroke.

shiftkit

· #16 · Sep 20, 2002

dude you dont get it......whopdy do you got more toqure all the way to 5700RPMS...that dont mean SHIT! Honestly with my short gear ratio's and launching at 5K (slip launches) how long do you think Im below 5700rpms? not even 1/2 a second thats how long. after that I take her up to 8300 where a stock B16 is making more TQ than a stock ZC AND a good 30hp more TO THE WHEELS and when I shift it never drops below 6500rpms. the ZC dont have shit on a B16 and it would cost a lot of money to make anywhere near the stock HP of a B16 out of a NA zc motor. You would have to redo EVERYTHING just to make a good 160hp out of it...and that would mean shitty idle with aggressive cams and such. I bet with all your mods your putting down maybe 120hp (which I would say is pushing it pretty hard but if you say you dynoed at 117 with just those two things you could have even more...doubt it though)...where as I am putting down over 135hp stock. Not to mention I drive an HF which weighs nothing and I still would have to have a good run to get into the mid 14's. You actually think you can hit 13's with your car???? unless you have that thing down to about 1000 lbs you dont have a chance in hell of hitting 13's...and unless it weighs less than around 1500 than you dont have a chance in hell of even getting into the 14's....I would bet your running high 15's with that tranny to be honest with you....maybe even worse than that.

By the way...are there any dyno's around of an NA ZC making 140hp to the ground? I would like to see them

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88 rex

· #17 · Sep 20, 2002

ZC'ed, you should def. see better times with the si tranny. the dx has lonnnnngggg gears.

Do you have timeslips of your 14.8 sec run? That would help end this lil debate.

riceboyzc

· #18 · Sep 21, 2002

this dude is lieing out his ass i had the same set up with the dx tranny for a while and the fastest it would go is 15.6-7's that tranny kills power soooooooo bad he would need a 100-shot to hit 14.8's. so that should end that dispute you fking lier.

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