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Opinion on this TURBO SETUP- d16z6

7.3K views 27 replies 5 participants last post by  Darkness  
#1 ·
ok heres the deal. i found a banging ass deal on this turboed bubble. Its clean, no rust, its basically what i wanted but it has this turbo which i know nothing about. Im a bseries guy (jdm b16 ej1 coupe i/h/e gsr tranny etc) and i dont know how its going to be going from dohc to single cam. In short, i just want to know if this is a good turbo setup for a d16z6 and if i were to be able to push it to like 12 psi...

ENGINE:

* Stock D16Z6 from a ’93 Si. 159,416 miles. Fully rebuilt < 20,000 miles ago. Turbo’d < 10,000 miles ago. Perfect compression, doesn’t burn any oil, no major leaks, etc. Meticulously maintained. Runs like new.
* DSM 14b TD05H turbo. Zero shaft play. Runs/spools like new @ 9psi. I’ve actually been using the coolant lines since day 1, unlike most people who do it the ghetto way and don’t make use of their turbo’s water-cooling capabilities. Turbo was completely rebuilt before I put it on the car.
* Port-matched HF exhaust manifold w/ adapter plate.
* JDM Silvia side-mount intercooler (mounted as a front-mount w/ custom charge piping).
* 1G DSM BOV. Very nice sound! Soft and subtle for daily driving; loud as hell when you get on it and want it to be loud.
* Custom downpipe w/ flexpipe.
* DSM 450cc injectors.
* Tuner Toys oil line kit.
* Walbro 255 fuel pump.
* B&M FPR.
* McMaster-Carr vacuum manifold.
* PCV deleted.
* Custom MFactory dual catchcan setup.
* Catalytic converter deleted w/ test pipe in its place.
* Stock O2 sensor deleted.
* RS*R GTII exhaust system. This + test pipe = VERY free-flowing, yet fast-spooling, exhaust.
* NGK spark plug wires.
* NGK BKR7E spark plugs.
* Marshall fuel pressure gauge.
* MFactory magnetic oil drain plug.
* Custom polyurethane motor mounts.
* Mobil 1 oil + new oil filter every 2,500 miles.

ENGINE MANAGEMENT/ELECTRONICS:

* Chipped/tuned P28 ECU. Moates Hondalog-ready. I’m also including the Moates BURN1 programmer AND both Crome map files (daily driver/boost map + emissions map).
* PLX R-300 wideband O2 computer.
* DEFI amber boost gauge.
* DEFI amber temp gauge.
* Greddy turbo timer.

TRANSMISSION:

* Stock 5-speed S20 from a ’93 Si. Shifts absolutely butter smooth. No grinds whatsoever.
* B&M short shifter w/ poly bushings.
* Clutch Specialties Stage 2 clutch & pressure plate.
* Resurfaced stock flywheel.
* MFactory magnetic fluid drain plug.
* GM Synchromesh at every fluid change.

MAINTENANCE:

* Timing belt replaced ~8,000 miles ago.
* Water pump replaced ~8,000 miles ago.
* Upper radiator hose replaced ~8,000 miles ago.
* Clutch/pressure plate (Clutch Specialties Stage 2) replaced & stock flywheel resurfaced ~8,000 miles ago.
* Rear main seal replaced ~8,000 miles ago.
* New thermostat, coolant flush, and coolant fill ~3,000 miles ago.
* New valve cover gasket ~3,000 miles ago.
* New distributor o-ring ~3,000 miles ago.
* New VTEC solenoid seals/gaskets/filters ~3,000 miles ago.
* New fuel filter ~3,000 miles ago.
* New oil pan gasket ~3,000 miles ago.
* Brake system flushed/bled ~500 miles ago.
* New plug wires ~3,000 miles ago.
* New spark plugs ~500 miles ago.
* New coolant temp sensor ~1,000 miles ago.
* New coolant temp sending unit ~1,000 miles ago.
* New thermostat switch ~1,000 miles ago.
* 4-wheel alignment done ~6,000 miles ago.

This was copied and pasted and he said he replaced all those things listed above with new oem parts etc before he put on the turbo. Please let me know asap because im seriously am going to consider buying it. All i know from research for about an hour is that the 14b is from a 1g eclipse/talon? its a relatviely small turbo. Thats it. Any information at all, would be appreciated.
Also if it is a decent turbo setup how much hp (i know everyone hates this but i cant afford a dyno right now) would i be making to the wheels, and if i crank the boost up to 12 psi instead of 9.
 
#6 ·
ouch.. of course ive heard of a p28 because you need a chipped one to run a b16. I meant to say ive never heard of this-- PLX R-300 wideband O2 computer or a Moates BURN1 programmer..I did research on turbo's maybe not enough, because i wanted to turbo the b16 but funds didnt allow it. The only reason im asking is because i dont know much about the 14b. And you still havent answered my question, with the setup he has would you think i can run it at 12 psi with 260 to the wheels?

Basically, i want some people to tell me that the set up is either good, bad, change this change that etc..
 
#10 ·
14bs are weak. If our T25s suck imagine that small thing. Get a 16g. Youll max that 14b at ~220hp

Oh and please put your PCV back in. You want it, actually you need it.

You do want a tuned car for boost. So a chip P28 is better than stock.
 
#13 ·
if i just upgrade the turbo itself would i have to upgrade everything else? Like the manifold etc. Or could i just switch turbo's. This deal is for 4k so i think its more than fair. But i just want to make sure that i can push it to like 11 -12 psi without it blowing up. How much would a 16g cost roughly?
thanks for the information

also im pretty sure he got the pcv delete so he can pass emissions. Im pretty sure (not 100%) that you can put it back on with ease
 
#14 ·
if i just upgrade the turbo itself would i have to upgrade everything else? Like the manifold etc. Or could i just switch turbo's. This deal is for 4k so i think its more than fair. But i just want to make sure that i can push it to like 11 -12 psi without it blowing up. How much would a 16g cost roughly?
thanks for the information
1. changing the manifold depends on the flange turbo you get

2. psi means nothing, i don't know why everybody is so obsessed with psi like it means something in regards to power made.

3. get the rite tune

4. you should really research this topic before you think of buying this car.
 
#27 ·
How do you find that number?? Can you get it from the various maps together with Exhaust gas velocity? I'm sizing an intercooler, and the only variable I have left to properly size the thing is the mass flow rate that the turbo can provide...

In my Vehicle Thermo Management class, our prof always just gave us the mass flow rate in the problem, as well as the temperature requirements in/out of the intercooler....but now that I'm sizing the CAC for my F/I build on the CBR motor, I need to figure out all the variables on my own (I can get the temps using a thermo-couple...but we don't have any type of flow bench to set the turbo up on)
 
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